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AMD最新的處理器市場規劃
AMD Athlon 64 FX “ClawHammer” for Socket 940 package with 1MB L2 cache and dual-channel PC3200 DDR SDRAM memory controller supporting registered modules. Made using 0.13 micron SOI technology.

AMD Athlon 64 FX “San Diego” for Socket 939 package with 1MB L2 cache and dual-channel PC3200 DDR SDRAM memory controller. Made using 90nm SOI technology.

AMD Athlon 64 “ClawHammer” for Socket 754 package with 1MB L2 cache and single-channel PC3200 DDR SDRAM memory controller. Made using 0.13 micron SOI technology.

AMD Athlon 64 Mobile “ClawHammer” for Socket 754 package with 1MB L2 cache, single-channel PC3200 DDR SDRAM memory controller and PowerNow! technology. Made using 0.13 micron SOI fabrication process.

AMD Athlon 64 Mobile “Odessa” for Socket 754 package with 1MB L2 cache and PowerNow! technology. Made 90nm SOI fabrication process.

AMD Athlon XP “Paris” for Socket 754 package with 256KB of L2 cache and single-channel PC3200 DDR SDRAM memory controller. Made using 0.13 micron SOI technology. Rumoured not to support AMD64 instructions.

AMD Athlon XP “Dublin” for Socket 754 package with 256KB of L2 cache, single-channel PC3200 DDR SDRAM memory controller and PowerNow! technology. Made using 0.13 micron SOI fabrication process. Rumoured not to support AMD64 instructions.

AMD Athlon XP “Victoria” for Socket 754 package with 256KB of L2 cache and single-channel PC3200 DDR SDRAM memory controller. Made using 90nm SOI technology. Rumoured not to support AMD64 instructions.

AMD Athlon XP “Barton” for Socket A package with 512KB of L2 cache and 333/400MHz EV-6 FSB. Made using 0.13 micron technology.


http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu/di...1005175453.html



從這個表格來看 之前傳說s754會成為孤兒是錯的
事實上會一直是K8的主力規格
而需要6層PCB版,ECC Register記憶體的s940 也因為成本太貴而會改成s939
不過個人相信要等s939的0.09微米製程的K8現身還要很久
s754會是較好的選擇
難怪ABIT的工程師嗆說他們不作基於Athlon FX的s940版子
認為s754比較有"效能潛力"
     
      
此文章於 2003-10-07 01:26 AM 被 Youfown 編輯.
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AMD Athlon 64 FX “ClawHammer” for Socket 940 package with 1MB L2 cache and dual-channel PC3200 DDR SDRAM memory controller supporting registered modules. Made using 0.13 micron SOI technology.

AMD Athlon 64 FX “San Diego” for Socket 939 package with 1MB L2 cache and dual-channel PC3200 DDR SDRAM memory controller. Made using 90nm SOI technology.

AMD Athlon 64 “ClawHammer” for Socket 754 package with 1MB L2 cache and single-channel PC3200 DDR SDRAM memory controller. Made using 0.13 micron SOI technology.

AMD Athlon 64 Mobile “ClawHammer” for Socket 754 package with 1MB L2 cache, single-channel PC3200 DDR SDRAM memory controller and PowerNow! technology. Made using 0.13 micron SOI fabrication process.

AMD Athlon 64 Mobile “Odessa” for Socket 754 package with 1MB L2 cache and PowerNow! technology. Made 90nm SOI fabrication process.

AMD Athlon XP “Paris” for Socket 754 package with 256KB of L2 cache and single-channel PC3200 DDR SDRAM memory controller. Made using 0.13 micron SOI technology. Rumoured not to support AMD64 instructions.

AMD Athlon XP “Dublin” for Socket 754 package with 256KB of L2 cache, single-channel PC3200 DDR SDRAM memory controller and PowerNow! technology. Made using 0.13 micron SOI fabrication process. Rumoured not to support AMD64 instructions.

AMD Athlon XP “Victoria” for Socket 754 package with 256KB of L2 cache and single-channel PC3200 DDR SDRAM memory controller. Made using 90nm SOI technology. Rumoured not to support AMD64 instructions.

AMD Athlon XP “Barton” for Socket A package with 512KB of L2 cache and 333/400MHz EV-6 FSB. Made using 0.13 micron technology.


http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu/di...1005175453.html



從這個表格來看 之前傳說s754會成為孤兒是錯的
事實上會一直是K8的主力規格
而需要6層PCB版,ECC Register記憶體的s940 也因為成本太貴而會改成s939
不過個人相信要等s939的0.09微米製程的K8現身還要很久
s754會是較好的選擇
難怪ABIT的工程師嗆說他們不作基於Athlon FX的s940版子
認為s754比較有"效能潛力"


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AMD Athlon 64 “ClawHammer”for Socket 754 package
AMD Athlon XP “Paris” for Socket 754 package
AMD Athlon XP “Dublin” for Socket 754 package
AMD Athlon XP “Victoria” for Socket 754 package

AMD XP 跟 AMD Athlon 64 用同樣的插槽

而且Athlon XP代號“Victoria”[Made using 90nm SOI technology]

看來Socket 754可能會和Socket A 一樣活很久
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AMD Athlon 64 FX “ClawHammer” for Socket 940 package with 1MB L2 cache and dual-channel PC3200 DDR SDRAM memory controller supporting registered modules. Made using 0.13 micron SOI technology.

AMD Athlon 64 FX “San Diego” for Socket 939 package with 1MB L2 cache and dual-channel PC3200 DDR SDRAM memory controller. Made using 90nm SOI technology.

AMD Athlon 64 “ClawHammer” for Socket 754 package with 1MB L2 cache and single-channel PC3200 DDR SDRAM memory controller. Made using 0.13 micron SOI technology.

AMD Athlon 64 Mobile “ClawHammer” for Socket 754 package with 1MB L2 cache, single-channel PC3200 DDR SDRAM memory controller and PowerNow! technology. Made using 0.13 micron SOI fabrication process.

AMD Athlon 64 Mobile “Odessa” for Socket 754 package with 1MB L2 cache and PowerNow! technology. Made 90nm SOI fabrication process.

AMD Athlon XP “Paris” for Socket 754 package with 256KB of L2 cache and single-channel PC3200 DDR SDRAM memory controller. Made using 0.13 micron SOI technology. Rumoured not to support AMD64 instructions.

AMD Athlon XP “Dublin” for Socket 754 package with 256KB of L2 cache, single-channel PC3200 DDR SDRAM memory controller and PowerNow! technology. Made using 0.13 micron SOI fabrication process. Rumoured not to support AMD64 instructions.

AMD Athlon XP “Victoria” for Socket 754 package with 256KB of L2 cache and single-channel PC3200 DDR SDRAM memory controller. Made using 90nm SOI technology. Rumoured not to support AMD64 instructions.

AMD Athlon XP “Barton” for Socket A package with 512KB of L2 cache and 333/400MHz EV-6 FSB. Made using 0.13 micron technology.


http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu/di...1005175453.html



從這個表格來看 之前傳說s754會成為孤兒是錯的
事實上會一直是K8的主力規格
而需要6層PCB版,ECC Register記憶體的s940 也因為成本太貴而會改成s939
不過個人相信要等s939的0.09微米製程的K8現身還要很久
s754會是較好的選擇
難怪ABIT的工程師嗆說他們不作基於Athlon FX的s940版子
認為s754比較有"效能潛力"


我是覺得S754能維持多久, 要看S939什麼時候出來, 以及出來時S939是不是真的能用在4層主機版上.
因為S940至少要用6層主機版, 成本高, 再加上需要Register DDR SRAM, 系統成本太高, 只適合小型Server使用.
S939(90nm),以AMD在 0.13um製程的經驗, 所以找上了藍色巨人來幫助, 因此, 應該90nm製桯轉換不會像T-Bred一樣龜毛, 應該會快一些.
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The Inquirer 相關的報導：
Athlon 64 sockets explained - Reasons behind 754, 939 and 940 pins
http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=11789
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......Why mess up the whole thing by introducing a socket with 939 pins?

At the technical symposium following the Athlon 64 launch, Mike Goddard, AMD Director of Technical Marketing of the firm's Computation Products Group, explained it in a way that it has left almost as many questions unanswered. But the long and the short of it is that Socket 940 requires a 6 to 9 layer motherboard and Socket 939 only requires a 4 layer design, making the motherboards much cheaper for chips using the latter......
(僅引述部分，原文請見該網頁 )


還沒機會看到 socket 939 的腳位定義，不過看來應該是有做修改 (或許是記憶體端吧，線最多所以最擠)，讓所有的訊號線能在兩層走完吧~

唉... 主機板到現在還是很難擺脫四層版的悲慘命運... T___T
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S939(90nm),以AMD在 0.13um製程的經驗, 所以找上了藍色巨人來幫助, 因此, 應該90nm製桯轉換不會像T-Bred一樣龜毛, 應該會快一些.

IBM的0.13製程比AMD還要慢達量產階段
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The Inquirer 相關的報導：
Athlon 64 sockets explained - Reasons behind 754, 939 and 940 pins
http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=11789

還沒機會看到 socket 939 的腳位定義，不過看來應該是有做修改 (或許是記憶體端吧，線最多所以最擠)，讓所有的訊號線能在兩層走完吧~

唉... 主機板到現在還是很難擺脫四層版的悲慘命運... T___T

一切都是$$$...
消費者看到的是便宜不是它是幾層板的!
雖然6層板穩定但是成本高,所以價格自然高!
接觸了那麼多的使用者後發現很多人都不懂電腦
只要便宜就可以了!
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