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嗯......我知道假的很多.......我女朋友那件是在新光三越買的^^"
我自己是有一件TNF Gore-tex 的在公館裡面的那間買的應該不是假貨,但被剪標就覺
得很幹(查證過2002~2003那陣子的在台北各大百貨公司專櫃上賣的也被剪標)
因為這種外套貴所以我逛了不少(最少找了兩個月公館那家店還去了四、五趟^^")
要看是不是真貨其實看久了就知道,不外乎就是「質感」、「款示」兩個條件就可以
知道東西是真是假了^^"

不過說真的是拜讀你的2004那篇之後才對材質有點概念的......^^"


我的 TNF 風衣也是在公館那家買的
     
      
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舊 2005-10-15, 12:26 PM #31
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請問除了Montane super fly之外還有無直得推薦的風雨衣!
MHW Epic parka好像材質很容易掛.
謝謝有勞!
 
舊 2005-10-15, 08:34 PM #32
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2005終於開拉
趕快來訂閱

剛剛從通霄回來
快累暴了...
來去睡拉
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請問除了Montane super fly之外還有無直得推薦的風雨衣!
MHW Epic parka好像材質很容易掛.
謝謝有勞!

不隻大大所謂EPIC容易掛是指??
epic基本上還未到Waterproof的等級..它只是Water resistance等級的布料...

如果大大所謂耐操是指"耐磨"的話...那可能只有重量級的Gore-tex XCR雨衣符合您的要求了...
各大廠的基本上都不錯~
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你曾經愛過的人使你失望之後,
他看起來就似乎有了許多缺點。
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舊 2005-10-15, 10:25 PM #34
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想請問一下,去年陽明山下雪那一次
跟女友穿著marmot DriClime Stretch Jacket就上山了
上大屯山的時候(0度以下)覺得還好
但是下山回家的時候,反而覺得身體冷起來(平地約7,8度)
是因為身體流汗的關係嗎?
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好人大翻身!!
如何追到曾經罵我又醜又粗俗又沒水準的女生!
帥不帥的迷思...
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今天去買了一件Marmot Driclime Windshirt及一件Marmot的雨衣......還真不便宜.....

想問一下Marmot Driclime Windshirt是有厚薄兩種??價格不同??
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Unhappy

http://www.sierratradingpost.com/xq.../qx/product.htm

好想買這個歐.... 可是我頭很大不知道戴不戴的下...
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想請問一下,去年陽明山下雪那一次
跟女友穿著marmot DriClime Stretch Jacket就上山了
上大屯山的時候(0度以下)覺得還好
但是下山回家的時候,反而覺得身體冷起來(平地約7,8度)
是因為身體流汗的關係嗎?

會不會是騎車時的風寒效應?
在山上玩的時候身體流汗,坐在機車上又沒有繼續運動產生熱...在家上狂風呼呼吹...
那個溫度搞不好比陽明山上雪地低喔~
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你曾經愛過的人使你失望之後,
他看起來就似乎有了許多缺點。
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舊 2005-10-16, 10:38 AM #38
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來一篇正經的,昨天用ABI找Paper實不小心發現這篇談"雨衣的散熱性"的文章,
有興趣的人可以參考看看..對了,這是一篇學術論文...

這邊我只show出文章的基本資料和Conclusions,研究經費是來自南韓的研究基金...Orz

Engineering of clothing systems for improved thermophysiological comfort The effect of openings
J.E. Ruckman, R. Murray, H.S. Choi. International Journal of Clothing Science and Technology. Bradford: 1999.卷期 11, Iss. 1; pg. 37

學科:Clothing, Studies, Variance analysis, Fabrics
類別代碼9130, 8620
作者:J.E. Ruckman, R. Murray, H.S. Choi
文章類型:Feature
出版物刊名:International Journal of Clothing Science and Technology. Bradford: 1999. 卷期 11, Iss. 1; pg. 37
來源類型:PeriodicalISSN/ISBN:09556222
ProQuest 文件 ID:86064156
全文字數:3992
文章 URL:http://proquest.umi.com/pqdweb?did=86064156&sid=5&Fmt=3&clie ntId=28127&RQT=309&VName=PQD

摘要 (文章匯總)
To evaluate the effectiveness of ventilation systems in outdoor jackets, two jackets were purchased and modified, one made of PTFE laminated fabric and the other made of polyurethane coated fabric. Six male subjects undertook exercise routines simulating fell walking while wearing these jackets. The skin temperature at four different locations and the amount of perspiration generated during exercise were recorded for analysis. The experimental results were analysed using two-way analysis of variance. From the analysis it was found that during the exercise the design of the pit zip openings, especially with pit zip openings at both sleeve and side seams, in a jacket has an effect on thermal regulation, limiting the rate of temperature increase; however, during rest it is the fabric that plays the more important role. The results for the period of exercise suggest that the provision of ventilation at appropriate positions in the jacket could contribute considerably to heat loss irrespective of the use of breathable fabrics.

全文 (3992 個單詞)
Copyright MCB UP Limited (MCB) 1999

J.E. Ruckman: Department of Clothing Design and Technology, Manchester Metropolitan University, UK

R. Murray: Department of Clothing Design and Technology, Manchester Metropolitan University, UK

H.S. Choi: Department of Clothing and Textiles, Ewha Womans University, South Korea

ACKNOWLEDGMENT: This paper was accomplished with research fund provided by Korea Research Foundation, supported for faculty research abroad.

Keywords Clothing industry, Garment, Thermophysiological

Conclusions
From this research it is shown that both clothing system engineering and waterproof breathable fabrics can contribute to thermophysiological comfort in outdoor jackets when the jacket is worn for mixed activities such as fell walking and resting.

During the exercise the design of the openings in a jacket has an effect on thermal regulation, limiting the rate of temperature increase. In the case of both GE and PE jackets, a pit zip with both sleeve and side seam opening has the greatest effect on lowering skin temperature followed by sleeve opening, side opening and no opening.

During the rest period, however, it is the fabric that plays the more important role. A more rapid cooling effect is observed for GE jackets made of PTFE laminated fabrics than PE jackets made of polyurethane coated fabrics. The results for the period of exercise, however, do suggest that the provision of ventilation at appropriate positions in the jacket could contribute considerably to heat loss irrespective of the use of hi-tech fabrics.

Skin temperature at the back was greater than at other parts of the body where measurements were taken at the start of the exercise, but the skin temperature at the chest gave the highest reading during exercise. This suggests that an opening near the chest may be the most effective way of creating ventilation. Although several outdoor jacket manufacturers in the UK incorporate a ventilation system around the chest, it is not the most popular position to open during exercise, since it directly exposes the chest to the outer environment. It is recommended, however, to consider engineering a design using a chest opening while minimising direct exposure.

In terms of moisture retention the PE jacket was seen to create more discomfort than the GE jacket. Measurements showed a greater amount of sweat being absorbed by the cotton T-shirt and blotting papers for PE jackets than GE jackets.
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你曾經愛過的人使你失望之後,
他看起來就似乎有了許多缺點。
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請問加百列大,年初我在香港 買了一件Columbia Titanuim的風衣,花了1000元港幣。是用 Omni tech的材料。這是和Marmot Driclime Windshirt是同一等級的材料嗎?
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