八月初 不是郭先生當報馬仔去刺探疫苗嗎? 政府你要凹是委託他去我也能接受

那月中自衛部就已經收到消息有疫苗可以搶到 不要跟我說不知道 你怎樣都不該去隱晦

八月中時:目前可以確定月底將有BNT登陸 那分批驗完後 開放預約幾號將陸續提供施打

那土製疫苗施打計畫不變 以上是跟國人報告最新進度 你看我這弱智都會吹了

那高端幾號開始打的? 你有點人性都不該不公布 等打完了一輪了才在說 你要給人去選

說個沒人性的話 你願意等的 那打高端的 打BNT的 那你死的死 掛急診的 昏在地上的

那是你的選擇 我政府有給你選 歡喜甘願 生意不就是這樣做的嗎?

你護航土製疫苗 元首帶頭搞得像賣藥的一樣 被人各種看破手腳 生意是這樣幹的嗎?

那開學日子擺在那 就是會有一大票牛鬼蛇神等著開學 最大群聚 包括我那兩個兔崽子

每天望穿秋水 在苦苦等 以前泡馬子約泡都沒那麼用力 我就很度爛的就是

為什麼疫苗方面就要搞得像做賊一樣 都不能公開 那你在去看別人國家怎麼搞的時候

你就不能去怪人民 去臭幹你 當毫無公信力時 你就不能去怪人在質疑你

難怪會有簡體字... 這批本來是要給中國的... 上海復星也有夠雖... 本想好好撈一筆的, 結果根本無法賣...

Taiwan to get BioNTech shots early as China delays approval-source

TAIPEI (Reuters) - Taiwan could get its first delivery of BioNTech SE's COVID-19 vaccines one month ahead of schedule as a delay in regulatory approval of the shot for use in mainland China made a surplus available for the island, a source told Reuters.

Taiwan's tortured bid for the vaccine, jointly developed with Pfizer Inc, has become an issue of high political and diplomatic drama, after Taiwan accused China of blocking a deal earlier this year, which Beijing denied. China claims democratically-governed Taiwan as its own territory.

Taiwan's government subsequently allowed tech giants Foxconn, its billionaire founder Terry Gou, and TSMC, to negotiate on its behalf for the shot, with a $350 million deal for 10 million shots inked last month.

More than 1 million doses, which had been originally destined for China, are expected to arrive in Taiwan between the end of August and early September, around one month earlier than initially planned, the person who has direct knowledge of the matter told Reuters.


"Shanghai Fosun did not manage to get approval so they gave up their plan for vaccine imports," the source said, referring to BioNTech's Chinese sales agent Shanghai Fosun Pharmaceutical Group Co Ltd.

"The original manufacturer was meant to make the delivery to Shanghai Fosun, but Fosun had to release them (the vaccines) as they didn't get the emergency use authorisation" from China, the source added.

Two other sources with direct knowledge of the matter said the supplies are due to arrive next week, but declined to say what led to the change of schedule.

While BioNTech Chief Executive Ugur Sahin said in April he expected its COVID-19 vaccine would win approval from the Chinese authorities "by June at the latest", no approval has been granted yet. It is approved in Hong Kong and Macau.


It was not immediately clearly how many doses had been earmarked for delivery to China and to which other destinations the surplus would be re-directed as a result of the uncertain approval outlook.

Taiwan will be among several places getting the orders "abandoned" by China, the first source said, who declined to name other recipients that include a European country.

BioNTech and TSMC declined to comment. Fosun and China's National Health Commission did not respond to requests for comment.

The made-in-Germany vaccines Taiwan will get will have labelling in the simplified Chinese characters used in China though not in Taiwan, along with the name of Shanghai Fosun, according to the first source.

Responding to requests for comment for this article, Gou's spokesperson referred Reuters to Taiwan's health authorities.

Health Minister Chen Shih-chung told reporters he could not say when the vaccines would arrive, as there were still some procedures that needed to be completed, and dismissed any concerns about the labelling.

"During this period of time, epidemic prevention is our only consideration. The important thing is whether the vaccine is safe and effective," he added.

The BioNTech vaccine drama has transfixed Taiwan and dominated headlines. While a relatively small domestic coronavirus outbreak is well under control, fewer than 5% of its 23.5 million people are fully vaccinated.

Taiwan's government has ordered millions of vaccines itself, from Moderna Inc, AstraZeneca Plc and local developer Medigen Vaccine Biologics Corp.

Once the BioNTech vaccines arrive they will be donated to and administered by the government.

A Taiwanese Buddhist group has also ordered 5 million doses.

(Reporting by Yimou Lee; Additional reporting by Ben Blanchard, and Taipei and Beijing newsrooms; Editing by Miyoung Kim and Kim Coghill)

來源: https://news.yahoo.com/taiwan-biont...-102223448.html

25日剩下5萬多人接種高端了，不過今天還有一些az跟moderna的第二劑施打
明天賴副總統要去接種了
希望能多帶動支持者去接種

應該是越後面打的越少是正常
這種會搶打的應該打差不多

現在又有那些例子出現+BNT和莫德納又要進貨

預約比較後面的搞不好改變主意

有一種說法是
如果高端一開始就從高齡的先打
是不是也會跟AZ一樣死那麼多人
我找了資料來嘗試解讀看看
似乎是也似乎不是
也就是目前應該是未知

附圖看出
AZ注射後543
莫德那124
但是誰注射高齡者的人數較多?
75以上 55萬 VS 50萬
65~74 13.9萬 VS 148萬
看起來莫德那不輸AZ
甚至在65~74歲的施打人數比AZ多很多
那為何死亡人數在第1劑沒有比AZ高
我認為差別還是在免疫反應的強度(AZ高在第一劑、莫德那高在第二劑)
以及特殊的嚴重副作用(血栓、過敏性休克等)

所以高端打在高齡人口是不是也會死很多人
我覺得應該是看它引發的反應強度讓那個年齡層的人承受程度的問題

目前的疫苗對絕大多數人是很安全
但如果你剛好有一些危險因子
因為打疫苗後的免疫反應而超出你的承受能力或讓某些隱疾提早爆發
那對你來說就會造成危險
這個似乎能用酒來比喻
比如說一口50cc的20%酒精的酒大部分人喝了不會死
但可能就有萬分之1的人喝了之後可能就會在晚上睡覺的時候猝死
通常是他本身也具備了某些危險因子
(比如你最近過勞或有心臟疾病或有呼吸中止症之類的)
酒(疫苗)是次因
30%可能就比20%濃度(反應強度)的酒更容易提高死亡機率
但50cc的20%酒對一般人正常情況下還是很安全的
(只是一個比喻,別計較多少cc多少濃度才會死人)

目前在說一個案例是否與疫苗相關
我是覺得相關性有高有低
有直接有間接
沒辦法那麼一刀切

當然這只是依據現有數據推測
解讀看個人
高端也有少量高齡的施打數
可以再觀察
總之
讓自己打疫苗的前後避免掉一些危險因子才能避免成為其中之一

目前三種都有打掛人。
就看九月BNT學生開打，陣亡率有多少？
時鐘和教育部應該開學後，每個學校班級都辦注意事項說明會。

[QUOTE=dkjfso]有一種說法是
如果高端一開始就從高齡的先打
是不是也會跟AZ一樣死那麼多人
我找了資料來嘗試解讀看看
似乎是也似乎不是
也就是目前應該是未知

附圖看出
AZ注射後543
莫德那124
但是誰注射高齡者的人數較多?
75以上 55萬 VS 50萬
65~74 13.9萬 VS 148萬
看起來莫德那不輸AZ
甚至在65~74歲的施打人數比AZ多很多
那為何死亡人數在第1劑沒有比AZ高
我認為差別還是在免疫反應的強度(AZ高在第一劑、莫德那高在第二劑)
以及特殊的嚴重副作用(血栓、過敏性休克等)


AZ打粉多住養老院的
我的觀察是這樣

目前看那些側翼聖蟑士在網路上傳
WHO邀請高端加入新冠變種病毒加強針研討會
說彈到屎也是高端仔

不知道真還假，還是又要搞文宣

看了後續資訊，果然是聖蟑士想魚目混珠，拉who來背書騙人這是國際認證

那隻會被罷免不是沒原因，舊事重提就算，還把自己支持者當白痴