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台灣號稱機車王國應該是密度數量第一吧,這是最不經濟和環保的交通工具,不只自己排廢氣駕駛人還猛吸別人排出的廢氣,竟然還有人引以自豪真是台灣奇蹟•笨到姥姥家了,台灣人還不回神就差全世界一萬步了
昨天一場演唱會把南港展覽館附近的人行道和巷子全停滿機車,而且是歪七扭八的亂停,反正是群眾暴力大概也不會犯罪的感覺,可是明明捷運站底下就有一個大停車場,卻不願意花幾十塊去停車,這就是台灣機車黨的水準,你們繼續去吸廢氣吸到死吧,反正台灣有三寶老了肺癌醫到飽
     
      
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台灣號稱機車王國應該是密度數量第一吧,這是最不經濟和環保的交通工具,不只自己排廢氣駕駛人還猛吸別人排出的廢氣,竟然還有人引以自豪真是台灣奇蹟•笨到姥姥家了,台灣人還不回神就差全世界一萬步了
昨天一場演唱會把南港展覽館附近的人行道和巷子全停滿機車,而且是歪七扭八的亂停,反正是群眾暴力大概也不會犯罪的感覺,可是明明捷運站底下就有一個大停車場,卻不願意花幾十塊去停車,這就是台灣機車黨的水準,你們繼續去吸廢氣吸到死吧,反正台灣有三寶老了肺癌醫到飽


台灣路上使用汽柴油的車種全部都會排放一樣的廢氣,造成用11路公車的必須吸入廢氣,閣下的建議是廢掉內燃氣車種才是
 
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評價很差的是T1...這台是T2....
順帶一提 直接用野狼引擎的是T1
T2的引擎跟野狼的天差地遠

然後我覺得國產機車工設最醜的是光陽 再來是YAMAHA....


T1跟T2用的是一模一樣的車架跟後搖臂

然後前叉跟後避震也是同一副

所以這兩台車的操控跟穩定性是一脈相承

至於T2的操控性那只能說比T1更爛

網路上看到的結果是說T2比T1沉穩

但是因為換了引擎所以更重

然後靈活性比T1還差

當然雜誌跟網路論壇的報導都不敢直接砲SYM

因為國內三大機車商都是它們的大****主

所以都不敢說它們產品的壞話

之前T1太重跑不快,一堆小屁孩還在那邊說啥騎帥不騎快

這種精神安慰法

至於英國的MCN就根本沒在怕這些台灣的土霸王

車有多少料它就實話實說

結果轉貼回台灣機車論壇一堆小屁孩崩潰
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怎麼前面幾台的選擇都不錯,到了後面就LOW了
台灣廠商總愛拿別人的成就來自比,跟飛機比快,跟賓士比質感




這樣不行呦....

人家鄉民大哥大拿日本輸輸的技術來比較兩羊 , 真不曉得哪來的自信心...

害的都不曉得要比較哪部份... , 也許兩羊土砲塑膠車車殼技術還有機會大贏...

RK180 賣100K都看不出有什麼價值在 , 特別是那對跛腳的倒叉前叉只能換...

腹腫 : 企兒濕~ 盤子在林杯就狂笑~ , 砍敗啦..
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MCN Sym Wolf SB125Ni test drive

MCN SYM WOLF SB125Ni

The Sym Wolf SB125Ni is a fuel-injected learner-friendly motorcycle from the Taiwanese giant. Sym pumps out around half a million two wheelers (albeit mostly scooters) a year, and this is one of their first steps into the UK motorcycle market. But… despite its great looks, the £2999 price tag puts it way above more attractive budget options, while the quality of the ride and engine simply isn't good enough to challenge the 125 Dukes and YZF-R125s of this world.Quality and Reliability


Sym Wolf SB125Ni是一台給初學者使用的噴射引擎摩托車尤台灣的機車大廠SYM製作,SYM每年生產50萬輛摩托車(雖然絕大多數都是速克達),這是他們進入英國市場的第一個產品,但是儘管外觀看起來不錯,3000英鎊的價格卻是在一個能夠讓人心動的價格之上,而操控跟引擎的品質根本沒有好到足以挑戰KTM 125 Dukes跟YZF-R125的領域,品質跟可靠度


Engine

Not exciting. Vibration picks up as the old-school, air-cooled four-stroke single begins to approach 70mph. You'll want to back off soon after. Keeping it pinned and moving along at 62mph is the norm. Acceleration is slow and breathless. The only redeeming feature is the fuel injection, which makes starting it and keeping it running as simple as pushing a button. Essentially the performance is feeble. Even for a 125.

引擎

沒有激情可言,當時速接近70mph時震動非常的大感覺就像是舊型的空冷四行程引擎,過不久之後你就會想要減速,將速度保持在62mph挺正常的,加速非常緩慢而且感覺氣喘吁吁的,唯一的優點在於噴射系統,按下一個按鈕後就開始持續的運行,簡單來說就算在125cc來說也是個虛弱的引擎


Ride and Handling

Not confidence inspiring. It feels poorly balanced and is consequently awkward to manoeuvre at low speeds. Most cheaper bikes get away with adequate or ill thought out design by being so light it really doesn't matter. At 155kg dry the Wolf just can't get away with it. The brakes are very basic twin piston callipers at the front with a drum at the rear, giving adequate stopping performance but nothing more. The gear change is sloppy, imprecise and ill-positioned. Deeply irritating.

騎乘與操控

啟發不了任何信心,感覺平衡性非常差以及在低速時操控非常笨拙,大多數這種輕型機車都沒有非常優秀而完整的設計,但是由於重量輕盈所以沒什麼關係,但在重達155公斤的Wolf 身上完全無法忽視這個問題,煞車方面前雙卡鉗跟後鼓煞可以滿足基本的煞車性能可也就僅此而已,變速方面則是很鬆散,不準確和定位不良,讓人非常不愉快


Quality and Reliability

General quality is adequate while failing to match major European or Japanese rivals. Sym haven't so far shared any details of warranty cover, and it remains to be seen how the Wolf will handle winter conditions and the drops and scrapes learners will subject it to.

質量與可靠性

總體而言品質還可以,但是無法成為歐洲或日本同級產品對手,目前為止SYM還沒有公佈保固範圍的細節,而Wolf處理冬季路況的能力還有待觀察,這將會導致初學者轉倒及擦傷


Value

you get a lot of equipment for the money. You get almost as much as on KTM's 125 Duke and for over £500 less. But, if you do buy the Wolf, you'll wish you splashed out just a little bit extra for a Honda CBR125R or the like. In short, the equipment's a bargain, the quality of the ride isn't.

價值

以這價格來說配備很多,可是差不到500英鎊就可以有KTM 125 Duke,如果你要買Wolf,不如再多貼一點錢去買Honda CBR125R或其它車,總而言之配備還挺值得,騎起來的品質卻完全不值得


Equipment

By far the Wolf's biggest selling point. A very tidy LCD dash – complete with sexy blue backlighting – shows off a slick digital speedo, a trip meter, fuel gauge and the current time. It has LED lights and neat styling touches like the CB1000R-styled alloy wheels. .....


到目前為止Wolf最大的賣點。有一個非常整潔的液晶儀表 - 完美與性感的藍色背光 - 巧妙的顯示了時速,里程表,燃油表和目前時間。擁有造型簡潔的LED尾燈是模仿CB1000R風格的鋁合金輪圈。........
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MCN Sym Wolf SB125Ni test drive

MCN SYM WOLF SB125Ni (http://www.motorcyclenews.com/MCN/b...m-Wold-SB125Ni/)

The Sym Wolf SB125Ni is a fuel-injected learner-friendly motorcycle from the Taiwanese giant. Sym pumps out around half a million two wheelers (albeit mostly scooters) a year, and this is one of their first steps into the UK motorcycle market. But… despite its great looks, the £2999 price tag puts it way above more attractive budget options, while the quality of the ride and engine simply isn't good enough to challenge the 125 Dukes and YZF-R125s of this world.Quality and Reliability


Sym Wolf SB125Ni是一台給初學者使用的噴射引擎摩托車尤台灣的機車大廠SYM製作,SYM每年生產50萬輛摩托車...




一顆已經算是阿公級的老引擎...

總不能餵它吃威而鋼機油消呸吧...

兩羊的廣 告策略其實都蠻瞎的... 特別強調卡普性能跟起步爆衝第一...

就是絕口不提新車保固內吃機油的窘事...

另一家A字廠商也很慘啊 , 一堆人捧了錢去買車 , 結果有問題還會解決小問題 , 最後問題太多了乾脆就相應不理...
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我倒覺得還不如去看目前正在起步的宏佳騰...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PpKr...player_embedded

自己去看吧...

還有他另外一臺檔車
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國外重機有顏射管啊,你沒看過??


排氣主體就算朝上,最後尾端也會往下,這是基本的設計常識,你找台進口重機顏射管得給我看∼
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不知道為何野狼的變速,換檔時都會卡卡的,不管是勾或踩時,都會有這樣的感覺...
特別是引擎越熱的時候,越不好打
空檔,在準備停紅綠燈的時候,都會突然找不到
之前CB400車價便宜的時候,沒買,真的是可惜了.....
後來年紀漸長,想弄台T-MAX來代步,家人也可以騎,可惜車價也是越漲越高...都快買不起了 寧願弄台國產車來開.....
我覺得還是以前載瓦斯用的那種二行程檔車,騎起來才舒服咧....
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MCN Sym Wolf SB125Ni test drive

被吐糟了 (在 MCN 下面的回文)
OK. Yet another innaccurate and unfair road test by MCN. The tester states that it has a "drum brake at the rear". Erm... no it's a disc actually (look at the photo's). There's nothing wrong with the gearchange either; it's neither sloppy nor imprecise. I have never missed a gear or had any problems whatsoever with the gearchange, and to say it is "badly positioned" is frankly ridiculous. It's easily adjustable just like most other bikes, so what's the problem? "General quality is adequate" Are you serious? I'm beginning to think this guy hasn't even seen the bike, never mind ridden it. The build quality on SYMs is easily on a par with the Japanese brands and knocks spots off Honda's cheap and nasty CBF125.What is meant by "Sym haven’t so far shared any details of warranty cover"? If you go to the SYM UK website, it clearly states that models 125cc and over come with a 3 year warranty. Talk about lazy journalism! If you're thinking of buying a Wolf 125, ingore this "road test" and go to your local SYM dealer and see for yourself.
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