好像很多人忘記或故意遺忘，台灣是被割讓的，就像有爸爸賭輸或欠債把小孩賣掉抵債一樣，該怪小孩為什麼要聽會家暴新爸爸的話嗎？還是要和把新爸爸趕跑卻同樣會加暴的舊爸爸一起罵曾有養育之恩而且已經培養出感情也變得講理一點的新爸爸？大多數人的認知是虎毒不食子，可是卻常被現在的社會新聞推翻.....

我有時常覺得，看歷史要兼容並包各種不同的觀點。即使全部都包容了，也不見得有一個絕對的真相，因為每個人立場不同。日本人有日本人的立場與觀點，地方士紳跟平民百姓所見所感當然也大不相同。

以前讀者文摘有一篇「居高臨下」，提到原子彈決定投下去時，各方不同的爭論與決定衝突。杜魯門接任總統時，曼哈頓計畫已經投入超過二十億了…如果他決定不用，最後大批地面部隊衝殺造成美國的子弟兵傷亡，他將成為眾矢之的。那篇文章好玩的地方在於，它引述了各個階層政客、軍人、科學家、……種種不同的立場與觀點，但文末也不敢給出一個絕對的定論，誰才是正確的。它說只有一件事可以確定的，就是原子彈出現後，就無所謂居不居高了。

另外我想新的記憶會覆蓋舊的記憶，我想我沒有辦法比較是嬰兒時砍斷一隻手的新爸爸比較狠還是後來又跑來找卻砍斷手指頭的舊爸爸比較狠，都差不多狠吧。其實這些都已經是過去的事，新舊爸爸都不在了，有親身經驗的人也越來越少，討論這些並沒什麼切身相關，只能說多尊重互相間不同的想法與情感吧。只是斯德哥爾摩症候群這東西好像是會跟一輩子的......

推樓上的發言，相當中肯....

當時在中國大陸，共產黨全面發動叛亂，國軍被打的節節敗退，一肚子大便，後方的台灣居然也發生全島暴動，殺了無數外省軍民好幾天，還出了個台灣共產黨謝雪紅等人領導的二七部隊，攻擊與佔領全台各地電台、機場、軍火庫、政府機關 (如果現在發生在台灣，一定被民進黨和其支持者叫中共同路人、第五縱隊) ，老蔣能不派軍隊來台鎮壓嗎? 幸好老蔣在中國大陸戰況吃緊時，還調派軍隊來殺，不然現在 台灣的國號應該叫 中華人民共和國 ， 　二二八紀念日則會叫台灣人民起義回歸祖國紀念日 。

所以二二八事件，其實是老蔣救了台灣，只是大家被洗腦，沒搞清楚狀況，或者搞清楚了，又不願承認

江湖一點訣，說破不值錢。
　
　
　

李喬為寫《埋冤 1947 》，特別下一番功夫研究傷亡人數，其推測方法是從1947年到1952年的每年人口出生率，死亡率的比較，進而推算1947年的應有人數，再從實際死亡人 數減去應有死亡人數，即是二二八的死亡人數，這應該是比較客觀的計算方式。

1947 年的總人口數乘上推估死亡率是95 , 046人，但當時實際死亡人數是114,192人，二者相差19146人，加上誤差人數為正負500人，則此次傷亡人數應在18,446~19,646人之間（不包括失蹤人口）。這是一個相當客觀的數字。這死亡人數相當於當時所有台灣人中，每300人中有一人死亡 。

再根據內政部人口統計， 1947 、 1948 、 1949 年的實際死亡人數分別為 114,192 、 95,340 、 93,449 人，故 1947 年的實際死亡人數比 1948 年多了 18,852 人，加上 3% 的正負誤差值，約介於 18,285~19,418 人之間。換言之，發生二二八事件的 1947 這一年，死亡人數比 1948 年憑空多出了 18,852 人，或介於 18,285~19,418 人之間。這些人數應該就是二二八事件、三月清鄉、及當年之內被屠殺的人數總合。

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歷史，一定要看得夠廣夠深，每個人的觀點和角度都是不同的

紐約時報 死亡人數上達一萬

Formosa Killings Are Put at 10,000; Foreigners Say the Chinese Slaughtered Demonstrators Without Provocation
福爾摩沙人死亡人數上達一萬；外籍人士說 中國人屠殺未挑釁的示威者
March 29, 1947, Saturday

By TILLMAN DURDIN Special to THE NEW YORK TIMES.

Page 6, 554 words

Foreigners say the Chinese slaughtered demonstrators without provocation Nanking, March 28, Foreigners who have just returned to China from Formosa corroborate reports of wholesale slaughter by Chinese troops and police during anti-Government demonstrations a month ago.

3月28日南京電，外國人士表示，中國屠殺沒有挑釁行為的示威者。剛剛由福爾摩沙返回中國的外國人士證實中國軍隊與警察一個月前在反政府示威活動中展開大屠殺。
These witnesses estimate that 10,000 Formosans were killed by the Chinese armed forces. The killings were described as "completely unjustified" in view of the nature of the demonstrations.

這些見證人估計大約有一萬名福爾摩沙人遭到中國軍隊屠殺。以示威活動的態勢看來，屠殺被形容為「毫無必要的」。
The anti-Government demonstrations were said to have been by unarmed persons whose intentions were peaceful. Every foreign report to Nanking denies charges that Communists or Japanese inspired or organized the parades.

參與反政府示威的是一群手無寸鐵，以和平為意念的百姓，所有外電報導都否認有共產黨或日本人鼓動或組織示威遊行。
Foreigners who left Formosa a few days ago say that an uneasy peace had been established almost everywhere, but executions and arrests continued. Many Formosans were said to have fled to the hills fearing they would be killed if they returned to their homes.

幾天前剛離開福爾摩沙的外國人士表示，各地已經確立緊張的表面平靜，但是槍決與逮捕仍然持續進行。許多福爾摩沙人已經逃到山中，他們擔心一旦回到家中就會遭到殺害。
Three Days of Slaughter:
三日屠殺
An American who had just arrived in China from Taihoku said that troops from the mainland arrived there March 7 and indulged in three days of indiscriminate killing and looting. For a time everyone seen on the streets was shot at, homes were broken into and occupants killed. In the poorer sections the streets were said to have been littered with dead. There were instances of beheadings and mutilation of bodies, and women were raped, the American said.

一位剛由台北回到中國的美國人表示，中國軍隊三月七日抵達台灣後，展開三天的無差別屠殺與搶劫，任何人只要在街上被看到就被槍殺，房屋被闖入，所有的居民都被殺害，最嚴重的地方，街頭屍橫遍野，有些人的頭被砍斷，有些被分屍，婦女遭到強暴。
Two foreign women, who were near at Pingtung near Takao, called the actions of the Chinese soldiers there a "massacre." They said unarmed Formosans took over the administration of the town peacefully on March 4 and used the local radio station to caution against violence.

兩位接近屏東地區的外籍女士稱中國軍人的行為「大屠殺」，他們說，沒有武裝的福爾摩沙人在三月四號和平的佔領市政府，並用廣播要求大家不要使用暴力。
Chinese were well received and invited to lunch with the Formosan leaders. Later a bigger group of soldiers came and launched a sweep through the streets. The people were machine gunned. Groups were rounded up and executed. The man who had served as the town's spokesman was killed. His body was left for a day in a park and no one was permitted to remove it.

中國人被善待還被邀請到福爾摩沙人領袖的家中共進午餐，但是稍後，更大群的軍人到達，用機關槍對街上人民掃射，許多人被集合起來集體槍決，鎮上的發言人被殺害，他的屍體被丟棄在公園中一整天不准收屍。
A Briton described similar events at Takao, where unarmed Formosans had taken over the running of the city. He said that after several days Chinese soldiers from an outlying fort deployed through the streets killing hundreds with machine-guns and rifles and raping and looting. Formosan leaders were thrown into prison, many bound with thin wire that cut deep into the flesh.

一位英國人也描述發生在高雄類似的事件，福爾摩沙人佔領市政府，幾天後中國軍人由外港登陸，用機關槍、步槍搶劫與強姦婦女，共有數百人遭殺害。福爾摩沙人的領袖被逮捕入獄，許多人被鐵絲穿過身體串成一串。
Leaflets Trapped Many

許多人被傳單所騙
The foreign witnesses reported that leaflets signed with the name of Generalissimo Chiang Kai-shek promising leniency, and urging all who had fled to return, were dropped from airplanes. As a result many came back to be imprisoned or executed. "There seemed to be a policy of killing off all the best people," one foreigner asserted. The foreigners' stories are fully supported by reports of every important foreign embassy or legation in Nanking.

外國見證人表示，飛機灑下一張由蔣介石簽名，保證寬大，力勸所有在逃難的人返回家園的傳單，結果許多人回家後遭到逮捕與槍決。一位外籍人士補充，看來有個政策打算殺害所有的菁英，這些外籍人士的故事得到所有重要外國使館與南京官方的證實。
Formosans are reported to be seeking United Nations' action on their case. Some have approached foreign consuls to ask that Formosa be put under the jurisdiction of Allied Supreme Command or be made an American protectorate. Formosan hostility to the mainland Chinese has deepened. Two women who described events at Pingtung said that when Formosans assembled to take over the administration of the town they sang "The Star Spangled Banner."

據報導，福爾摩沙人正要求聯合國採取行動，有些人聯繫外國大使，要求將台灣交由聯軍最高統帥治理，或是成為美國的保護地。福爾摩沙人對中國人的敵意已經加深，兩位描述發生在屏東事件的女士表示，當福爾摩沙人佔領市政府時唱的是美國國歌。

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