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Page last updated at 11:29 GMT, Tuesday, 9 March 2010

Hard drive evolution could hit Microsoft XP users
By Mark Ward
technology correspondent, BBC News


Hard drives are about to undergo one of the biggest format shifts in 30 years.

By early 2011 all hard drives will use an "advanced format" that changes how they go about saving the data people store on them.

The move to the advanced format will make it easier for hard drive makers to produce bigger drives that use less power and are more reliable.

However, it might mean problems for Windows XP users who swap an old drive for one using the changed format.

(Windows 7 is one of few operating systems that are "4K aware")


Error codes

Since the days of the venerable DOS operating system, the space on a hard drive has been formatted into blocks 512 bytes in size.

The 512 byte sector became standardised thanks to IBM which used it on floppy disks.

While 512 bytes was useful when hard drives were only a few megabytes in size, it makes less sense when drives can hold a terabyte (1000 gigabytes), or more of data.

(The 512 byte format dates from the days of the floppy)

"The technology has changed but that fundamental building block of formatting has not," said David Burks, a product marketing manager for storage firm Seagate.

This fine resolution on hard drives is causing a problem, he said, because of the wasted space associated with each tiny block.

Each 512 byte sector has a marker showing where it begins and an area dedicated to storing error correction codes. In addition a tiny gap has to be left between each sector. In large drives this wasted space where data cannot be stored can take up a significant proportion of the drive.

Moving to an advanced format of 4K sectors means about eight times less wasted space but will allow drives to devote twice as much space per block to error correction.

"You can get yourself into a corner where you cannot squeeze much more onto the disk," said Steve Perkins, a technical consultant for Western Digital.

This shift also allows manufacturers to make more efficient use of the real estate on a hard drive.

"We can put more data on the disk," he said. "It's about 7-11% more efficient as a format."

Slow down

Through the International Disk Drive Equipment and Materials Association (Idema) all hard drive makers have committed to adopting the 4K advanced format by the end of January 2011.

Hard drive makers have begun an education and awareness campaign to let people know about the advanced format and to warn about the problems it could inflict on users of older operating systems such as Windows XP.

This is because Windows XP was released before the 4K format was decided upon.

"The 512 byte sector assumption is ensconced into a lot of the aspects of computer architecture," said Mr Burks from Seagate.

By contrast, Windows 7, Vista, OS X Tiger, Leopard, Snow Leopard and versions of the Linux kernel released after September 2009 are all 4K aware.

To help Windows XP cope, advanced format drives will be able to pretend they still use sectors 512 bytes in size.

When reading data from a drive this emulation will go unnoticed. However, said Mr Burks, in some situations writing data could hit performance.

In some cases the drive will take two steps to write data rather than one and introduce a delay of about 5 milliseconds.

"All other things being equal you will have a noticeable hard drive reduction in performance," said Mr Burks, adding that, in some circumstances, it could make a drive 10% slower.

In a bid to limit the misalignment, hard drive makers are producing software that ensures 512 sectors line up with 4K ones.

Those most likely to see the performance problems are those building their own computers or swapping out an old drive for one that uses the new format.
     
      
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該來的還是會來的

已經有3T和2.5T的硬碟了
我們公司已經拿到樣品測試中
今年應該會有產品上市

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這意味今年就可以買到跌破二千的1T硬碟嗎?
 
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這意味今年就可以買到跌破二千的1T硬碟嗎?


意味著停產的舊款硬碟價格準備上揚.....
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格式化時
配置單位大小 設成 4096 byte
不就是這樣子?
不過將允許硬碟每個區塊都多出一倍空間,來進行錯誤碼修正。
這是要怎麼多出一倍空間啊..

bit 數沒增加,改變分割就會多出空間?

這是記者有毛病,還是我觀念錯誤?


看文字天馬行空,看圖片一目了然

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唯一的辦法就是要擺脫微軟的作業系統的使用習慣
不過話說回來, 其它作業系統到現在都沒接觸過....
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小聲說~會衝擊XP
那2000和98有影響嗎XDDDDDDD
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小聲說~會衝擊XP
那2000和98有影響嗎XDDDDDDD

完全不會有影響
因為大多主機板已不支援xp之前版本
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如果

有個碟片單碟密度500GB, 用了先進格式最多可得535~555GB,
那麼有一個碟片本來只能做到密度470GB, 用了先進格式, 能達到500GB的水準,

上面的兩個碟片, 廠商最後都是設定成500GB的上限來賣...

其實這樣, 消費者也沒多得到空間啊~~~XD
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如果

有個碟片單碟密度500GB, 用了先進格式最多可得535~555GB,
那麼有一個碟片本來只能做到密度470GB, 用了先進格式, 能達到500GB的水準,

上面的兩個碟片, 廠商最後都是設定成500GB的上限來賣...

其實這樣, 消費者也沒多得到空間啊~~~XD

WD就是這樣
DS => RS

很抱歉,還給你漲價喔...說加大buffer ...
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印象中NTFS磁區本來就是4K為一個單位吧? 有哪裡比較先進嗎?

對阿 我用XP NTFS 也是4K為一個單位
而且不是可以自己修改嗎
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