PCDVD數位科技討論區
PCDVD數位科技討論區   註冊 常見問題 標記討論區為已讀

回到   PCDVD數位科技討論區 > 電腦硬體討論群組 > 顯示卡討論區
帳戶
密碼
 

  回應
 
主題工具
toyakoyo99
*停權中*
 

加入日期: Aug 2005
文章: 3,050
引用:
作者gdrs
GTX260和5770價位差不多,實際遊戲效能260好一些

目前應該就這個價位


對啊~5770的CP值不高
不過拼效能還有強過GTX260的HD4890能選

起碼ATI的產品可以讓你選效能強一些,不過比較耗電的產品
或者可以選效能比較差一些,但是很省電的產品

相較於NV要效能拼不贏,要省電也沒有,現階段3D效能導向仍舊是一面倒

等到月底或許連NV免強可入手的260 275也沒得比了

屆時對手將是5830/1G
     
      
舊 2010-01-13, 04:51 PM #11
回應時引用此文章
toyakoyo99離線中  
Risky
*停權中*
 

加入日期: Oct 2002
文章: 456
依2篇對起來,
我倒是覺得那數字還可接受,(和出貨量來做對比)
另外,之前有人也曾提到,
因Fermi切割比較大,
所以相對於ATI-AMD的顯卡切割比較小的優點,
所以Fermi 40nm良率會更差其實是還蠻合理的^^
 
舊 2010-01-13, 05:00 PM #12
回應時引用此文章
Risky離線中  
lightwing
Golden Member
 
lightwing的大頭照
 

加入日期: Jul 2003
您的住址: 水天相連之處
文章: 3,953
對岸大多是翻譯版啦

應該是原始文章
http://www.fudzilla.com/content/view/17205/1/

Claims that the current TSMC 40nm process that is being used for the AMD/ATI Cypress family is achieving yields of in the neighborhood of 40% don’t seem to have a shred of truth. Our sources close to TSMC claim that actually the 40nm process that is being used for the Cypress family is routinely achieving yields in the 60% to 80% range, which is actually confirmed by the fact that ATI is keeping product in the pipeline and you can actually buy boards at retail.

Chip yields seem to be the topic of discussion lately as the much larger Nvidia Fermi chip is struggling with yield issues as our sources suggest that the actual yields are as low as 20% and are not improving quickly according to sources close to the fabs. With wafer starts costing about $5K the numbers suggest that each chip would cost an astounding estimated $200 per chip which pegs the card with a sticker price of about $600.

Those in the know are claiming that Fermi despite the yield and thermal issues is only about 20% faster than Cypress, while Hemlock smokes it. The combination of low yields, high thermals, and marginally better performance than Cypress could be conspiring to place Nvida in the position of having to release the card, but have to sell it at a loss till they are able to address the issues in the next spin according to sources. Because of the situation a mole we know is suggesting that Nvidia may limit the sales of Fermi to consumers and instead use the chips for the Tesla and Quadro products where prices and margins are much better.

All of the talk of yields seems to be in some ways nothing more than a smoke screen to shine the light off of the current situation to stall sales by promising something that most consumers are likely going to be unable to buy. The moles claim you will not need a pair of 3D glasses to watch this shake out in the next few weeks.
__________________
MyPC MKVII
Intel Xeon E3-1230V2 / ASUS P8Z68-V Pro/Gen3 / Kingston DDRIII 1600 4G X 4
PowerColor AXR9 280X 3GBD5-DHE / ASUS VW266H / ASUS Xonar D2/PM with Edifier C3
Pioneer BDR-S09XLT / Plextor PX-B950SA / Pioneer BDR-S08XLB / Optiarc AD-7200S
Hitachi 7K3000 2TB / Hitachi 7K2000 2TB / Hitachi 5K3000 2TB /Toshiba Q-Series Pro 128G
Thermaltake MozartTX VE1000BWS / Thermaltake ToughPower XT 775W
KBtalKing Pro / Logitech G502 on eZova Zo9 Amber /

發問前必讀提問的智慧
有問題請先爬文&善用搜尋功能
舊 2010-01-13, 06:11 PM #13
回應時引用此文章
lightwing離線中  
David2072
Major Member
 

加入日期: Feb 2009
您的住址: 高雄市
文章: 254
引用:
作者艾克萊爾
對岸消息可性度先50% ~off


不過現況是不太樂觀

看看ati最近像吃了春藥一樣新產品猛發,價格也很硬就知道大事不妙了(對手還沒到位的意思)....

你的可性度0.1% ~off
舊 2010-01-13, 06:33 PM #14
回應時引用此文章
David2072離線中  
艾克萊爾
Golden Member
 
艾克萊爾的大頭照
 

加入日期: Aug 2004
您的住址: 「 」
文章: 2,511
引用:
作者David2072
你的可度0.1% ~off

__________________
ぶ(∀゚ )人(゚∀&#65439人( ゚&#8704人(∀゚ )人(゚∀&#65439人( ゚&#8704
(↑一個因為疫情影響導致工作超閒不知做啥好的傢伙↑)
舊 2010-01-13, 06:35 PM #15
回應時引用此文章
艾克萊爾離線中  
lobben
Senior Member
 
lobben的大頭照
 

加入日期: Oct 2006
文章: 1,384
先補血 不然等一下被噓爆

話說回來,NV再不加油或者真的放棄PC遊戲市場讓AMD獨大,那不是件好事
舊 2010-01-13, 10:26 PM #16
回應時引用此文章
lobben離線中  
ProtoZohar
Master Member
 
ProtoZohar的大頭照
 

加入日期: May 2009
文章: 2,405
撇開良率不提

nVIDIA假如還想用大核心策略去硬拼ATi

那結果已經可想而知,連效能都不必看了
__________________
眞子内親王                    綠壩娘
舊 2010-01-14, 07:38 AM #17
回應時引用此文章
ProtoZohar離線中  
skyang
Major Member
 
skyang的大頭照
 

加入日期: Nov 2003
您的住址: 地虎
文章: 240
黃sir:有沒有聽過OverDriver?
其實我的Fermi內件X86
舊 2010-01-14, 05:30 PM #18
回應時引用此文章
skyang離線中  
艾克萊爾
Golden Member
 
艾克萊爾的大頭照
 

加入日期: Aug 2004
您的住址: 「 」
文章: 2,511
引用:
作者skyang
黃sir:有沒有聽過OverDriver?
其實我的Fermi內件X86





挖勒...
天頂星人還是火星人加持不成?


老黃啊,火星科技就讓它沉入黑歷史裡吧~
__________________
ぶ(∀゚ )人(゚∀&#65439人( ゚&#8704人(∀゚ )人(゚∀&#65439人( ゚&#8704
(↑一個因為疫情影響導致工作超閒不知做啥好的傢伙↑)
舊 2010-01-14, 08:36 PM #19
回應時引用此文章
艾克萊爾離線中  
moninca09
Junior Member
 

加入日期: Oct 2004
文章: 890
20%...80%..差四倍
假如再加上Die Size可能也差了40%...
兩個GPU成本豈不是差了快六倍
舊 2010-01-15, 02:33 AM #20
回應時引用此文章
moninca09離線中  


    回應


POPIN
主題工具

發表文章規則
不可以發起新主題
不可以回應主題
不可以上傳附加檔案
不可以編輯您的文章

vB 代碼打開
[IMG]代碼打開
HTML代碼關閉



所有的時間均為GMT +8。 現在的時間是09:56 AM.


vBulletin Version 3.0.1
powered_by_vbulletin 2025。