[Kiev’s Battlefield] 戰鬥民族的暴動果然戰力十足...

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bogeman

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東烏的戰火未熄，但基輔街頭卻又打起來了

據稱暴動的主因是反對1.5％的戰爭稅和徵兵令，這次連東正教的神父都上陣了。

2014-08-08, 08:50 AM #1811

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一架基輔軍MiG-29被民兵擊落，基輔當局已經承認：

[YOUTUBE]2n4hKliw7BE[/YOUTUBE]

已經打到用MiG-29當攻擊機，顯然基輔軍其他專業攻擊機已經幾乎損耗殆盡了...

2014-08-08, 11:01 AM #1812

Mr. RC Major Member 加入日期: Jan 2008 文章: 195	這應該是有史以來最強的民兵吧....
2014-08-08, 12:54 PM #1813

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據稱暴動的主因是反對1.5％的戰爭稅和徵兵令，這次連東正教的神父都上陣了。

http://i.ssimg.cn/guancha/News/2014...33138678738.jpg

[YOUTUBE]cjZr1TG3aRU[/YOUTUBE]

基輔現在亂成一團，上街頭的人各種光譜的人都有：有反戰或支持東烏聯邦化的，有反對徵兵、加稅的，有呼籲停火的軍眷，有即將被大規模裁員減薪的公務員，還有覺得巧克力大王不夠強硬，覺得被出賣的極右翼份子...，這些人放一起就會自己打起來了，基輔當局還派出軍警想把這些人從廣場上驅離，結果只是火上加油變得更亂。巧克力大王已經顧不得東烏戰局吃緊，火速從前線抽調若干部隊進基輔鎮壓，連裝甲部隊都已調回來了：

[YOUTUBE]vZdq2vrCULY[/YOUTUBE]

有道是：待到來年八月八，民主之後殺全家。今天剛好是八月八日...

2014-08-08, 04:54 PM #1814

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cjZr1TG3aRU

基輔現在亂成一團，上街頭的人各種光譜的人都有：有反戰或支持東烏聯邦化的，有反對徵兵、加稅的，有呼籲停火的軍眷，有即將被大規模裁員減薪的公務員，還有覺得巧克力大王不夠強硬，覺得被出賣的極右翼份子...，這些人放一起就會自己打起來了，基輔當局還派出軍警想把這些人從廣場上驅離，結果只是火上加油變得更亂。巧克力大王已經顧不得東烏戰局吃緊，火速從前線抽調若干部隊進基輔鎮壓，連裝甲部隊都已調回來了：

vZdq2vrCULY

有道是：待到來年八月八，民主之後殺全家。今天剛好是八月八日...

解析的淋漓盡致，一語道破基輔的亂象根源，鼓掌先。

難怪美國在此時宣佈空襲ISIS，一下子就把基輔暴動的消息給埋了，時間挑的真好。

此文章於 2014-08-09 08:24 AM 被 bogeman 編輯.

2014-08-09, 08:22 AM #1815

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本週局勢圖：

先前從北面直搗馬航墜機地的基輔軍(主力是第25空降旅舊部，就是幾個月前叛逃嚴重，被臨時政府下令裁撤的那個部隊，不確定該部隊的新番號與編制為何)因為孤軍深入，一部分已遭包圍，另一部分倉皇後撤。在盧甘斯克南部的包圍圈，基輔軍雖然重新發動攻勢打開了缺口，但大多數被困的部隊已在幾天前向民兵或俄國投降，僅有少數殘部被救出。此外，如之前所說，基輔當局抽調了部分兵力回基輔鎮壓群眾運動，所以對於頓涅茨克市、盧甘斯克市的攻勢進展不大。

2014-08-09, 10:29 AM #1816

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馬來西亞方面宣布，馬航MH017班機是遭到空對空飛彈襲擊，然後被戰鬥機的機關砲火擊落。

《新海峽時報》（New Straits Times）是馬來西亞最大的商業英文報紙，其前身為新加坡海峽時報吉隆坡版，名稱來源於從古代起就很繁忙的船舶航線馬六甲海峽，是全世界最古老的報紙之一，在馬來西亞是具有權威性的報刊。

Malaysia, "New Straits Times" August 7, 2014 8:00 am

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　　KUALA LUMPUR: INTELLIGENCE analysts in the United States had already concluded that Malaysia Airlines flight MH17 was shot down by an air-to-air missile, and that the Ukrainian government had had something to do with it.
　　
This corroborates an emerging theory postulated by local investigators that the Boeing 777-200 was crippled by an air-to-air missile and finished off with cannon fire from a fighter that had been shadowing it as it plummeted to earth. 　　

In a damning report dated Aug 3, headlined “Flight 17 Shoot-Down Scenario Shifts”, Associated Press reporter Robert Parry said “some US intelligence sources had concluded that the rebels and Russia were likely not at fault and that it appears Ukrainian government forces were to blame”. 　　

This new revelation was posted on GlobalResearch, an independent research and media organisation. 　　

In a statement released by the Ukrainian embassy on Tuesday, Kiev denied that its fighters were airborne during the time MH17 was shot down. This follows a statement released by the Russian Defence Ministry that its air traffic control had detected Ukrainian Air Force activity in the area on the same day. 　　

They also denied all allegations made by the Russian government and said the country’s core interest was in ensuring an immediate, comprehensive, transparent and unbiased international investigation into the tragedy by establishing a state commission comprising experts from the International Civil Aviation Organisation (ICAO) and Eurocontrol. 　　

“We have evidence that the plane was downed by Russian-backed terrorist with a BUK-M1 SAM system (North Atlantic Treaty Organisation reporting name SA-11) which, together with the crew, had been supplied from Russia. This was all confirmed by our intelligence, intercepted telephone conversations of the terrorists and satellite pictures. 　　

Parry’s conclusion also stemmed from the fact that despite assertions from the Obama administration, there has not been a shred of tangible evidence to support the conclusion that Russia supplied the rebels with the BUK-M1 anti-aircraft missile system that would be needed to hit a civilian jetliner flying at 33,000 feet. 　　

Parry also cited a July 29 Canadian Broadcasting Corporation interview with Michael Bociurkiw, one of the first Organisation for Security and Cooperation in Europe (OSCE) investigators to arrive at the scene of the disaster, near Donetsk. . 　　

Bociurkiw is a Ukrainian-Canadian monitor with OSCE who, along with another colleague, were the first international monitors to reach the wreckage after flight MH17 was brought down over eastern Ukraine.

In the CBC interview, the reporter in the video preceded it with: “The wreckage was still smouldering when a small team from the OSCE got there. No other officials arrived for days”. 　　

“There have been two or three pieces of fuselage that have been really pockmarked with what almost looks like machinegun fire; very, very strong machinegun fire,” Bociurkiw said in the interview. 　　

Parry had said that Bociurkiw’s testimony is “as close to virgin, untouched evidence and testimony as we’ll ever get. Unlike a black-box interpretation-analysis long afterward by the Russian, British or Ukrainian governments, each of which has a horse in this race, this testimony from Bociurkiw is raw, independent and comes from one of the two earliest witnesses to the physical evidence. 　　

“That’s powerfully authoritative testimony. Bociurkiw arrived there fast because he negotiated with the locals for the rest of the OSCE team, who were organising to come later,” Parry had said. 　　

Retired Lufthansa pilot Peter Haisenko had also weighed in on the new shootdown theory with Parry and pointed to the entry and exit holes centred around the cockpit. 　　

“You can see the entry and exit holes. The edge of a portion of the holes is bent inwards. These are the smaller holes, round and clean, showing the entry points most likely that of a 30mm caliber projectile. 　　

“The edge of the other, the larger and slightly frayed exit holes, show shreds of metal pointing produced by the same caliber projectiles. Moreover, it is evident that these exit holes of the outer layer of the double aluminum reinforced structure are shredded or bent — outwardly.” 　　He deduced that in order to have some of those holes fraying inwardly, and the others fraying outwardly, there had to have been a second fighter firing into the cockpit from the airliner’s starboard side. This is critical, as no surface-fired missile (or shrapnel) hitting the airliner could possibly punch holes into the cockpit from both sides of the plane. . 　　

“It had to have been a hail of bullets from both sides that brought the plane down. This is Haisenko’s main discovery. You can’t have projectiles going in both directions — into the left-hand-side fuselage panel from both its left and right sides — unless they are coming at the panel from different directions. 　　

“Nobody before Haisenko had noticed that the projectiles had ripped through that panel from both its left side and its right side. This is what rules out any ground-fired missile,” Parry had said.

2014-08-09, 03:14 PM #1817

虎斑貓停權中加入日期: Dec 2004 文章: 222	基輔獨立廣場上，抗議群眾焚燒輪胎燃起大火： [YOUTUBE]xrFv3JzspZQ[/YOUTUBE] 在巧克力大王調回部隊鎮壓後，據稱基輔市區已在當局控制之下。
2014-08-10, 07:51 AM #1818

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基輔獨立廣場上，抗議群眾焚燒輪胎燃起大火：

xrFv3JzspZQ

在巧克力大王調回部隊鎮壓後，據稱基輔市區已在當局控制之下。

基輔的二次暴動，似乎被台灣媒體封鎖了。

2014-08-10, 08:32 AM #1819

Stonehendge Senior Member 加入日期: Jun 2003 文章: 1,366	那個神父準備丟輪胎及拿棍子的姿勢又威又帥不愧是戰鬥民族
2014-08-10, 09:05 AM #1820

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