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857 - Opteron 265 Dual-Core 1.8GHz

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舊 2005-05-09, 05:00 PM #131
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857 - Opteron 265 Dual-Core 1.8GHz

真是迷人的價錢@@


跟FX-53差不多...
$865...
FX-55反而只要$810.
 
舊 2005-05-09, 05:06 PM #132
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什麼好?我只知道一堆人買K8都在玩超頻
我又不喜歡超頻 也不玩電動
我只需要影音轉檔 不可能因為影音轉檔去用這麼高階的玩具
所以還是用Intel好 溫度高又怎樣? 不超頻又不會燒壞
在這裡吵的還不是在那裡爭小小的數據差 自己用起來爽就好了

K8就算不超頻也可以電P4電的哇哇叫,
更不要說64-bit Windows XP正式版快出了,
溫度高是不怎樣,只是很吵很耗電而已,
同樣效能的P4都比K8貴,那我幹麻買P4?
舊 2005-05-09, 07:15 PM #133
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把p4電的哇哇叫?還好吧!老實講現在的電腦速度都很快了,一般的使用者應該感覺不出其中的差異吧!況且AMD也不是白痴,如果真的不超頻就能把P4電的哇哇叫,難道他現在標的PR值都是標假的嘛?
舊 2005-05-09, 09:34 PM #134
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不知有沒有人貼過了...
Anandtech今天出現的報告...
http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipset...doc.aspx?i=2410
Final Words
Now armed with final silicon, our stance on AMD's Athlon 64 X2 doesn't change at all - AMD clearly has the faster overall dual core desktop solution, but at a price that will be out of reach for most users. Eventually, AMD's pricing will fall to a level that is far more reasonable, but unfortunately, that time won't be until 2006 at the earliest. We've already looked at the slow dual core vs. fast single core debate, but be prepared to be put in that very position later this year as both AMD and Intel bring their dual core CPUs to market at very different price points.

What we did find interesting was that while AMD generally maintains a large performance advantage in single threaded applications, our multitasking scenarios were a mixed bag of results between AMD and Intel. The multitasking gaming tests were obviously very strongly in favor of AMD, but the general usage tests were more mixed between AMD and Intel. In many cases, Intel's Pentium D actually pulled ahead in terms of performance.

Also, in our multitasking tests, there were a couple of cases where we saw no major performance difference between the Athlon 64 X2 4800+ and 4200+. It was mostly in the single application (both single and multi-threaded) that we saw the most noticeable performance difference between the two CPUs.

The other thing we continue to see is that dual core with Hyper Threading in these multitasking environments is very much the double-edged sword. There are some situations where having both Hyper Threading and dual core gives Intel a huge performance boost, but there are others where the exact opposite is true. As it currently stands, we're not sure how much of a future Hyper Threading will have in future Intel architectures - but it's definitely not a sure win.
In terms of availability, AMD is encouraging all reviewers to mention that the Athlon 64 X2 will be available starting in June. However, that availability in June will only be through select system builders, probably very similar to Intel's current dual core "availability". Widespread availability of the Athlon 64 X2 won't be until Q3 or Q4 of this year, and we aren't sure when we'll see widespread Pentium D/Extreme Edition availability either. AMD did deliver on their promise and is making sure that dual core Opterons are out and available for the enterprise markets, however.

With the last of our product-specific dual core previews out the door, now we all play the waiting game. But with both AMD and Intel pushing dual core heavily, we can only hope that the wait won't be too long - especially from the standpoint of improving software support for dual core systems. Today, we're able to show some very tangible performance gains for dual core CPUs in multitasking usage environments, but in the future, single application performance should get a very tangible performance boost as well.
舊 2005-05-10, 10:10 AM #135
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K8就算不超頻也可以電P4電的哇哇叫,
更不要說64-bit Windows XP正式版快出了,
溫度高是不怎樣,只是很吵很耗電而已,
同樣效能的P4都比K8貴,那我幹麻買P4?


唉....我完全支持你說的
可惜還是很多人無法面對現實

K8效能贏P4,就說效能快一點又怎樣 ? 使用又感覺不出來
P4很熱很耗電,就說熱一點又怎樣 ? 反正又不會當機

這種討論,根本是垃圾戰
舊 2005-05-10, 10:28 AM #136
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WinXP 64bit有包含或是需要SP2的安全性修正檔嗎?


我看官網是已經包含 SP2 的修正了, 不需要另外下載修正檔.
舊 2005-05-10, 10:49 AM #137
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唉....我完全支持你說的
可惜還是很多人無法面對現實

現實最主要是你有哪些軟體可以發揮SMP,如果你根本沒有支援SMP的軟體,那雙核只是讓你爽度增加而已
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舊 2005-05-10, 10:49 AM #138
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面對現實是一回事 實際要買又是另外一回事
AMD效能比較好 不代表我就非買AMD不可吧
老實說電腦就是自己用的爽最重要 什麼效能測試有時候真的是看看就好
畢竟你不會隨時把效能ㄍㄧㄥ到極致 絕大多數的時間其實電腦都是閒置的
此時無論你用哪顆CPU感覺應該都一樣吧 現在有很多人一看到別人用INTEL就說他是傻瓜
問題是人家用的很快樂 他不覺得它的電腦慢 他的電腦也幫他做很多事 其實我覺得一台電腦真正的價值在於它能為你做什麼 而不是那效能上的數字 畢竟那效能上的數字很多人是看的到用不到的
舊 2005-05-10, 12:08 PM #139
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面對現實是一回事 實際要買又是另外一回事
AMD效能比較好 不代表我就非買AMD不可吧
老實說電腦就是自己用的爽最重要 什麼效能測試有時候真的是看看就好
畢竟你不會隨時把效能ㄍㄧㄥ到極致 絕大多數的時間其實電腦都是閒置的
此時無論你用哪顆CPU感覺應該都一樣吧 現在有很多人一看到別人用INTEL就說他是傻瓜
問題是人家用的很快樂 他不覺得它的電腦慢 他的電腦也幫他做很多事 其實我覺得一台電腦真正的價值在於它能為你做什麼 而不是那效能上的數字 畢竟那效能上的數字很多人是看的到用不到的

歡迎加入"癌症蛋白質運算",幫人幫己,這樣CPU就不會有閒置的時候了
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