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想組台K8 請問一下相關的事情

最近逛二手區
看到有人在賣K8和MOBILE K8(皆為754PIN)
1.請問這兩者差異在哪裡?
2.就效能上和價格方面又有何差異?
3.還有現在市面上可同時支援這兩顆CPU的板子有哪幾塊?
     
      
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Originally posted by leoboy
最近逛二手區
看到有人在賣K8和MOBILE K8(皆為754PIN)
1.請問這兩者差異在哪裡?
2.就效能上和價格方面又有何差異?
3.還有現在市面上可同時支援這兩顆CPU的板子有哪幾塊?


1.筆電板和桌上型版

2.沒有

3.大多數的K8T800都可以跑

給你個連結看 http://forums.anandtech.com/message...hreadid=1321894






(7) What motherboards work properly with a mobile Athlon 64?

As of right now, only the below listed motherboards are confirmed to work properly without the use of any software hacks. Please note that the DTR and Mobile and True Mobile CPUs (the latter two are the "mobile CPUs" referred to in the rest of the paragraph) have different microcode. At the current time the implication of this is not fully known. Upon initial testing, it seems that support for a DTR CPU does not guarantee proper support for mobile CPUs (e.g. the CPU may be properly recognized but multiplier and/or voltage may no longer be modifiable.) On the other hand, support for mobile CPUs seems to indicate full support for the DTR CPUs. Again, these are just initial findings and more compatability testing is needed before this can be confirmed. In the future more motherboards will be added should they be found to be compatible with the mobile Athlon 64 processor.



(a) SiS 755/964

ASRock K8S8X [AGP/PCI Lock, FID 4x-Max, HTT adjust, VCore, LDT; Tested with Athlon 64 DTR 1.5v, Athlon 64 Mobile 1.4v] - boots fine but locks down to a 4x multiplier (800Mhz speed). The BIOS needs to be updated to the latest 1.60 to cure this problem. CPU will then be properly recognized at the correct multiplier and speed.


(b) nForce3-250; nForce3-250GB

MSI K8N Neo Platinum [AGP/PCI Lock, FID 4x-Max, HTT Adjust, VCore, VDimm, LDT; Tested with Athlon 64 Mobile 1.4v] Stability issues at stock and inability to get voltage to stay above 1.45v have been reported. Until further notice, please take this into account if you choose this motherboard. The motherboard will boot with the shipping BIOS but the CPU will lock down to a 4x multiplier (800Mhz) To correct this one needs to go into the Frequency/Voltage control menu in the BIOS and enable voltage adjustment and MANUALLY select the proper voltage for the chip. Then, in the same menu select the FID control and manually select the proper multiplier for the chip. Reboot and the problem should be solved. However, you may then have to use clockgen or CrystalCPUID to set the voltage to 1.55v in Windows to get voltage to stick. In that situation, voltage increases can be done through the windows corecell utility. Another quirk is that the backplate is *glued* on, which means it's tough to get off and you need to get it off. Be careful and don't use sharp objects as they may damage the board.

Chaintech VNF3-250 Zenith Value Edition [AGP/PCI Lock, FID 4x-Max, HTT Adjust, VCore, VDimm, LDT; Tested with Athlon 64 DTR 1.5v, Athlon 64 Mobile 1.4v] - will NOT boot with shipping BIOS. What that means is that you have to get *another* DESKTOP CPU and flash to the new BETA 5/7/04 BIOS found here (courtesy of RacerX27, ignore the first link in the thread):
http://forums.pcper.com/showthread.php?t=322922
Then swap out the desktop with the mobile chip. At that point the motherboard will boot but the CPU will lock down to a 4x multiplier (800Mhz) To correct this one needs to go into the Frequency/Voltage control menu in the BIOS and enable voltage adjustment and MANUALLY select the proper voltage for the chip. Then, in the same menu select the FID control and manually select the proper multiplier for the chip. Reboot and the problem should be solved.


(c) nForce3-150

AOpen AK89 Max [AGP/PCI Lock, FID 4x-Max, HTT Adjust, VCore, VDimm, LDT; Tested with Athlon 64 Mobile 1.2v] - will NOT boot with shipping BIOS. What that means is that you have to get *another* DESKTOP CPU and flash to the 1.07a BIOS. Then swap out the desktop with the mobile chip. At that point the motherboard will boot but the CPU will lock down to a 4x multiplier (800Mhz) To correct this one needs to go into the BIOS and enable voltage adjustment and MANUALLY select the proper voltage for the chip. Then, select the FID control and manually select the proper multiplier for the chip. Reboot and the problem should be solved.


(d) VIA K8T800

Asus K8V Deluxe [NO AGP/PCI Lock; Tested with Athlon 64 DTR 1.5v] - works fine out of the box. Correct speed and multiplier automatically selected by shipping and latest BIOS.
 
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可搭配市售的版子如下:

華碩全系列(倍頻、電壓須自行調整)、

技嘉全系列(倍頻、電壓須自行調整) 、

微星全系列(倍頻、電壓須自行調整)、

偉格全系列(全自動調整,不過國內很罕見)、

磐英全系列(不支援,完全無畫面)、

承啟全系列(不支援,倍頻會抓錯無法調整)
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差在TDP.

Desktop K8 耗電量以同樣3000+來講,約吃85W左右;
而Mobile K8 約35W.

Desktop K8不支援C1,C2,C3 省電功能,但Mobile K8有
而VIA K8 Chipset 因為技術問題無法克服所以他把C2,C3給關了
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是的,我喜歡妳 這一回,不請求妳的原諒。

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leoboy
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原來如此
謝謝各位的指教
再請問一件事ASUS K8V-D有支援省電功能嗎?
舊 2004-06-15, 12:11 PM #5
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Mobile的AMD 64還有分三種
型號前三碼
ADA (DTR) 81.5W
AMN 62W
AMD 35W

而桌上型的的AMD 64
ADA 89W
舊 2004-06-15, 03:12 PM #6
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Originally posted by 勇仔
Mobile的AMD 64還有分三種
型號前三碼
ADA (DTR) 81.5W
AMN 62W
AMD 35W

而桌上型的的AMD 64
ADA 89W



基本上看第三個字母就對了
現在流出的好像都是 AMA, 就是沒有比較省電
舊 2004-06-15, 05:39 PM #7
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原來還分那麼多種喔
真是學到很多
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