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我買了國產 dvd recorder " Memorex DVR-2410 dvd+r/rw"

撐了多年總算下手了 (日系買不起); 在大葉高島屋買的 NTD19,900/set, 或許比大賣場貴了一點, 但service也挺重要的且離家近, 另外送20pc Melody dvd+rw 空片及信用卡扣點折NTD700 算是小補. 使用幾天的心得如下:

1. 外觀: 很醜, 不能與日系大廠相提並論.
2. 組裝: 不能與日系大廠相提並論.
3. 使用方便性: +rw 真的很方便, 但剪輯不方便. +r/+rw燒好的片子試了 5 台dvd played (pioneer, sampo, paramount, panasonic, rca) 皆ok, can play well. Can connect with Cable TV, full channels.
4. 畫質: player 畫質還不錯; recorder 錄cable (2hr, 3hr) 不錯但有騷動感 (29 inch TV set, non progressive scan), 4hr 開始有點msk( 影像快速移動時); 轉錄LD (我的重點之一即是轉錄絕版的 rock concert LD), LD影像雜訊多時 2hr 會有 MSK, 1hr時接近LD (含雜訊), 但LD雜訊少時2hr還不錯, msk情形改善很多, 不考慮 3hr-6hr for LD transfer; dvd anolog to dvd record時, 2hr 已很好; 我想母片情況影響transfer後的結果很大; VHS & DV (有 i-link端子) 尚未試.
5. audio: PCM will be tansferred into dd2.0; with 5.1 output; said dts decoding is available but not yet tested.
6. 耐用性: 測試中 (每天 burn 3-4hours for a week long or longer).
7. 其他:
a. 第一台散熱風扇不動, 換新的.
b. 預約錄影待機時, 機身會發熱, 不知正不正常? recording時有散熱風扇轉動時, 機身不熱. 另有電源開關可停止待機狀態, 但不知時間等設定是否會跑掉? (因每天預錄小朋友最愛的 Thomas小火車, 故不能試).
c. 後來才知道此機是 M.E.T.(理銘)代工, 不知是否為Ricoh的組件; sampo有一台應該相同代工廠, 只是外殼另外設計; Liteon那台不知如何? 是否為 Sanyo的組件? BenQ機子未上市, PHilip組件?

後記: 聽說明年會降到NTD10,000左右, 但怕我家LD player 撐不到那時 (已送pioneer修2次).
     
      
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回覆: 我買了國產 dvd recorder " Memorex DVR-2410 dvd+r/rw"

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Originally posted by Salaman
撐了多年總算下手了 (日系買不起); 在大葉高島屋買的 NTD19,900/set, 或許比大賣場貴了一點, 但service也挺重要的且離家近, 另外送20pc Melody dvd+rw 空片及信用卡扣點折NTD700 算是小補. 使用幾天的心得如下:

1. 外觀: 很醜, 不能與日系大廠相提並論.
2. 組裝: 不能與日系大廠相提並論.
3. 使用方便性: +rw 真的很方便, 但剪輯不方便. +r/+rw燒好的片子試了 5 台dvd played (pioneer, sampo, paramount, panasonic, rca) 皆ok, can play well. Can connect with Cable TV, full channels.
4. 畫質: player 畫質還不錯; recorder 錄cable (2hr, 3hr) 不錯但有騷動感 (29 inch TV set, non progressive scan), 4hr 開始有點msk( 影像快速移動時); 轉錄LD (我的重點之一即是轉錄絕版的 rock concert LD), LD影像雜訊多時 2hr 會有 MSK, 1hr時接近LD (含雜訊), 但LD雜訊少時2hr還不錯, msk情形改善很多, 不考慮 3hr-6hr for LD transfer; dvd anolog to dvd record時, 2hr 已很好; 我想母片情況影響transfer後的結果很大; VHS & DV (有 i-link端子) 尚未試.
5. audio: PCM will be tansferred into dd2.0; with 5.1 output; said dts decoding is available but not yet tested.
6. 耐用性: 測試中 (每天 burn 3-4hours for a week long or longer).
7. 其他:
a. 第一台散熱風扇不動, 換新的.
b. 預約錄影待機時, 機身會發熱, 不知正不正常? recording時有散熱風扇轉動時, 機身不熱. 另有電源開關可停止待機狀態, 但不知時間等設定是否會跑掉? (因每天預錄小朋友最愛的 Thomas小火車, 故不能試).
c. 後來才知道此機是 M.E.T.(理銘)代工, 不知是否為Ricoh的組件; sampo有一台應該相同代工廠, 只是外殼另外設計; Liteon那台不知如何? 是否為 Sanyo的組件? BenQ機子未上市, PHilip組件?

後記: 聽說明年會降到NTD10,000左右, 但怕我家LD player 撐不到那時 (已送pioneer修2次).


裡面的燒錄器是RICOH MP 5240A
 
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舊 2003-10-29, 06:22 PM #2
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Have tried this machine for 2 weeks, burn 3-4 hours per day...now few problems come out---> getting 'no disc' message for new blank +r disc & could not read non-finalized +r disc, & could not properly finalized after recording( with "error" message after long time burning, about 120mins to the limit of a disc under sp mode).

but all ok with +rw & finalized +r?

Is this normal? I heard Philips also have same problems.

The distributor says they will send someone to check my machine?

Will update.
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Originally posted by Salaman
後記: 聽說明年會降到NTD10,000左右

我也等粉久嚕,但還在等,想等到降到10,000左右^^
不過要降到這價位,應該大約是明年的Q4?
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the distributor has called me last night and would like to send me some more +rw disc for trial, they don't have any +r disc? they want me to test the machine for them with 10pcs of free +rw??? anyway, have not received the discs yet.

however, i have brought the +r discs (from the same bulkpack, Melody 10pc/box at ntd399) back to the shop to test (wonder if it could the bad discs).....they used Musteck machine to test....with 40% readable - means 4 dics successful, out of 10; not sure if these 40% could be also burned well), the musteck is a new machine so I assume the problem comes from the disc instead of the machine. Then i bought a Philip+r for test....my machine now could read Philip+r disc (but i don't want to burn the disc yet)....quite s big assumption DVD vedio recoder is picky for the quality of the disc...and Melody +R could be bad for some batches as my first 10 pcs are done well, it got bad from the 2nd 1opcs box.

i have burned 2 +rw last night, looks both fine; one with 122mins SP & another one with 53min HQ; this morning I have burned a tv programe with a new +rw, 10mins, it looks there is a little pause in the middle...again is this also sign of bad disc (bandled free Melody +rw when i was buying this machine).

I am thinking maybe it is not very good for the laser pick-up to burn the disc overtime (like 120mins out of a 120min disc SP)?
or bad disc?
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回覆: 我買了國產 dvd recorder " Memorex DVR-2410 dvd+r/rw"

引用:
Originally posted by Salaman
撐了多年總算下手了 (日系買不起); 在大葉高島屋買的 NTD19,900/set, 或許比大賣場貴了一點, 但service也挺重要的且離家近, 另外送20pc Melody dvd+rw 空片及信用卡扣點折NTD700 算是小補. 使用幾天的心得如下:

1. 外觀: 很醜, 不能與日系大廠相提並論.
2. 組裝: 不能與日系大廠相提並論.
3. 使用方便性: +rw 真的很方便, 但剪輯不方便. +r/+rw燒好的片子試了 5 台dvd played (pioneer, sampo, paramount, panasonic, rca) 皆ok, can play well. Can connect with Cable TV, full channels.
4. 畫質: player 畫質還不錯; recorder 錄cable (2hr, 3hr) 不錯但有騷動感 (29 inch TV set, non progressive scan), 4hr 開始有點msk( 影像快速移動時); 轉錄LD (我的重點之一即是轉錄絕版的 rock concert LD), LD影像雜訊多時 2hr 會有 MSK, 1hr時接近LD (含雜訊), 但LD雜訊少時2hr還不錯, msk情形改善很多, 不考慮 3hr-6hr for LD transfer; dvd anolog to dvd record時, 2hr 已很好; 我想母片情況影響transfer後的結果很大; VHS & DV (有 i-link端子) 尚未試.
5. audio: PCM will be tansferred into dd2.0; with 5.1 output; said dts decoding is available but not yet tested.
6. 耐用性: 測試中 (每天 burn 3-4hours for a week long or longer).
7. 其他:
a. 第一台散熱風扇不動, 換新的.
b. 預約錄影待機時, 機身會發熱, 不知正不正常? recording時有散熱風扇轉動時, 機身不熱. 另有電源開關可停止待機狀態, 但不知時間等設定是否會跑掉? (因每天預錄小朋友最愛的 Thomas小火車, 故不能試).
c. 後來才知道此機是 M.E.T.(理銘)代工, 不知是否為Ricoh的組件; sampo有一台應該相同代工廠, 只是外殼另外設計; Liteon那台不知如何? 是否為 Sanyo的組件? BenQ機子未上市, PHilip組件?

後記: 聽說明年會降到NTD10,000左右, 但怕我家LD player 撐不到那時 (已送pioneer修2次).


請問有試過跟日系 DVD Recorder錄出來的畫質比較嗎??
用過Pioneer DVR-7000 & DVR-77H...品質真的沒話說
不知台系的影像品質如何
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received the test +rw this morning, very good service as a distributor; guess they encourage me to use +rw than +r disc as the quality of +r varies & may cause more problems. however, bad +r costs me a lot already, i will at this moment go for +rw till my faith for +r is back

the recording quality is not bad; they are using Cirrus chip sets for mepg2 encoding & Philip dv to mepg2 convertor chip set for 1394 interface; the dvd drive is ricoh; the dv to hq is excellent, no difference at all between dv & dvd+rw; basically hq (60mins/disc) is very good no matter what quality of signal you feed to; as to sp mode (120min), the source is very important, nice source could cause great quality or bad one would cause pixilation when it comes to fast moving.

never tried ep, lp...etc, i hate vcd quality, it hurts my eyes

most important, by far no matter +r or +rw recorded discs could both be played on my 3 dvd players; i have sent some to my friends in taiwan & japan to see if this format also works on their dvd players.
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