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沒用上美國常規武器 IDF 基本就是零武裝 巡航偵察機 更不要講上面的雷達 跟盲視一樣

【增量生變】萬劍彈造價上億元卻頻出狀況 年度精準射擊驗證不及格
https://www.upmedia.mg/news_info.php?SerialNo=71002
台灣IDF 萬劍彈出來吹多久 你說神奇天兵飛彈根本完全上不去

IDF是台灣第一台戰機沒錯 可是因為有個南部閩南人總統把他徹底毀掉 去看看蘇聯兩大廠下場 IDF根本就跟SU/MIG比慘
這位台南沙豬總統 把這批養成了20年航太人(閩南人看不起外省人全趕走) 不要說IDF那批工程師 連中研院也被派插了很多民進黨覺青

F5就T-38教練機改過來 根本說不上有多難技術門檻 美軍自己都不開當贈品到處送人

上艦那台又不是叫F-17
F-18是麥道負責的 上艦時跟諾普YF-17已經完全沒有任何關係 還打一場官司

當初YF-17原型機跟YF-16競爭 就一堆問題 後來YF-23/YF-22也一樣

諾普本來就爛 造出來的戰機 沒那麼好用 問題很多 可是想甩掉又甩不掉 跟蟑螂一樣 現在又改名叫超蟲 反正比F-15便宜 一線上不了只能當跑腿

IDF當初機體規劃 已經打死規格與後續 機體本身就沒足夠的燃油空間

改良現有架構成為教練機 充其量用了更貴複材補大洞花大錢

中國那台L-15 都有3000公里 其他教練機最起碼都有2000公里 更不要講教練/學員座位高低問題

這台勇鷹要出來 一定變成世界造價最貴/飛行費用最貴/最短腿教練機
花個4~7年 新弄一台說不定還比較便宜

還有啊 去查一下 解放軍裡有沒有這台型號 "super 7/FC-1" 一直嘴這台是幹嘛

前面都說啦 解放軍把這台當外貿版在賣 目前使用國 緬甸跟巴基斯坦

跟東南亞緬甸/巴基斯坦空軍比很爽嗎 為甚麼要一直打臉你自己

到底還活在那個時代 一下JF-17以前 J-10以前 J-11 以前
拜託看一下日曆月曆好不好 現在是2019啦 有夠悲哀

而且 JF-17 都要推Block III

不說已經有的 空中加油/亞音速反艦飛彈 未來會有JF-17 有AESA
https://nationalinterest.org/blog/b...ght-india-72751

引用:
But the Chengdu Aircraft Corporation kept on working on the Super-7 project, and in the 1990s offered to jointly develop an affordable F-16 substitute based upon the Super-7 called the JF-17 Thunder with the Pakistan Aeronautical Complex. PAC had formerly principally been involved in re-building old J-7s and Mirages.

The Thunder, which first flew in 2003, is a no-nonsense evolution of the MiG-21. Instead of the MiG-21’s R-25 turbojet with a nose intake, the Thunder uses an RD-93 turbofan (a variant of the RD-33 on the MiG-29 Fulcrum) with lower fuselage intakes. The JF-17’s maximum speed of Mach 1.6 to 1.8 leaves it marginally slower than its Soviet forebearer, but the Thunder remains highly maneuverable, has a superior range of around 750 miles, and its KLJ-7 doppler radar is far more powerful.

Of course, in contrast to the F-16, the JF-17 is designed to employ Chinese weapons on its seven hardpoints, including the PL-5 short-range air-to-air missile, LS-6 ‘Thunderstone’ GPS-guided glide bombs, and YJ-12 supersonic and YJ-83 subsonic anti-shipping missiles. (The PAF’s No.2 squadron maintains one squadron in the maritime strike role.) The PAF JF-17s are still awaiting Chinese PL-12 radar-guided missiles with a range of around fifty miles to obtain true beyond-visual range capability.

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Though not directly integrated, the JF-17 can also carry electro-optical/infrared sensors and self-defense jammers on external pods.

While early JF-17 models priced out to a cheap $15-28 million—cutting edge jets fourth and fifth-generation jets tend to cost $70-110 million)—the Thunders lacked certain basic capabilities. For example, aerial-refueling capability was not introduced until the Block II model.

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The new Block III, which will supposedly cost around $32 million each, now introduces a helmet-mounted display system which should allow more flexible targeting of short-range missiles in close dogfights. The jet intakes are widened to improve airflow, and the Russian RD-93 engine may eventually be replaced by a Chinese manufactured WS-13 turbofan. Additional thrust, combined with lightweight composite materials could potentially boost the type’s speed and range.

Perhaps the most important upgrade is an upgrade of the radar to an Active Electronically Scanned Array (AESA) radar. These have higher resolution, are more discrete and are more jam-resistant than preceding classes of radar. PAC is evaluating a KLJ-7A radar with a wider-angle search field and a detection range of 124 miles for fighter-sized target, and an air-cooled LKF-601E AESA radar.

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The Block III Thunder may also feature an internal infrared sensor and modernized flight control systems and a single-panel multi-functional display for the pilot.

While the Thunder is not particularly sexy compared to cutting-edge stealth fighters and even 4.5-generation jets like the Rafale and Su-35, its seems capable for its price, particularly once it integrates AESA radar and the PL-10 missile. It seems likely to show up in the new again if there any future showdowns between Pakistani and Indian aviation.

當時 同個時代美國給 台灣 中國近乎 雷同的技術 過了30年 只能用呵呵呵

IDF就是一台徹底被民進黨那批南部人用民粹毀掉戰機 不用怪甚麼五毛 去找那批人哭去吧

其實打那麼多沒意義 結論就是 老人除了懷舊就剩嘴砲

https://militarywatchmagazine.com/a...ni-capabilities

https://militarywatchmagazine.com/a...b8_55001623.jpg

看看人家為巴鐵打造簡配版4代機 用上雙斜尾 JF-17 Block 3

台灣只能花兩年多整合(號稱世界第一快) 造出縮水IDF來當教練機(還是一樣短腿 )

民進黨最強 民進黨萬歲 其實勇鷹號 非常符合閩南人愛打腫臉充胖子天性 ㄚ~~~勇號
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