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作者physx
我記得AMD說過雙模塊的bulldozer整數性能會比現在的四核心強10~35%

這你可能記錯了
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作者Bulldozer 20 Questions Part2
“How much extra performance will we see when running two-threaded applications on one Bulldozer Module compared to two cores in different modules?” – Simon

Without getting too specific around actual scaling across cores on the processor, let me share with you what was in the Hot Chips presentation. Compared to CMP (chip multiprocessing – which is, in simplistic terms building a multicore chip with each core having its own dedicated resources) two integer cores in a Bulldozer module would deliver roughly 80% of the throughput. But, because they have shared resources, they deliver that throughput at low power and low cost. Using CMP has some drawbacks, including more heat and more die space. The heat can limit performance in addition to consuming more power. Ask yourself, would you rather have a 4-cylinder engine that delivered 300HP or a 6-cylinder engine that delivered 360HP and consumed less gas? The cylinder to horsepower ratio for 4-cylinder is obviously higher (75HP/cylinder vs. the V6’s 60HP/cylinder), meaning that each cylinder can give you more performance. However, looking at the overall enginge, you are getting less total output; and you are getting that lower output at a higher cost (higher gas consumption).

簡單的翻譯一下
同一模組兩個核心的throughput約是兩個獨立核心的80%
by AMD server推銷 發言人

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依此類推四模塊比1090T強50%是有可能的,功耗也不高(TDP 95/125W)
正常來說推土機雙模塊可以打i3、三模塊可以打i5、四模塊可以打i7

這是有可能的 (可能性還蠻高的)
不過不是因為單核心變強,而是核心變多 用多打少去贏
以一個核心輸10%來看 4個核心雖然已經輸40%
但是四核心才兩模組,Bulldozer還有兩模組(4核心)可以來追落差

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狀況好一點的話 雙模塊打i5、三模塊打i7、四模塊打i7六核

這個可能就有點拼了

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作者浮出水面
反觀AMD這邊幾乎只能對「非」核心單元進行大刀闊斧的動作
雖然Bulldozer架構可進一步改進多線程的效能
但單線程方面恐怕會越輸越遠

基本上AMD是賭軟體發展+製程障礙(算是放棄單線程這塊),intel則是穩穩出牌
舊 2010-11-08, 03:09 AM #26
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