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BorgMu 2003-01-09 09:13 PM

R350直逼500美元!! R9700Pro真是非敗一片了.....
 
剛剛看到PCPOP那裡的"馬路消息".....
R350 可能會達到 500美元,看來真的被我之前所說的不幸言中.......
ATI看到 NV 的GeForce FX 都敢賣到兩萬台幣了....那為何我們還要賣那一萬出頭啊!~
看來以後...真正頂級的卡不再是一萬多起跳.....而是要以兩萬為標準的....
一萬多的卡只是.........啊!~還好而以啦!!!:shock: :shock:
而真照之前ATI的計畫...一旦R350上市,R9700 Pro將停產而以R350全面替代R9700 Pro的地位.......現在敗一片R9700 Pro還真是超值啊.........
可能R9700 Pro將會是最後一片 一萬出頭價位能買到的 頂級顯示卡!~
莎呦拿啦!~ 一萬元頂級顯卡的時代!
連結在這.....大家慢慢看吧
http://www.pcpop.com/view.asp?type=news&id=8637

GPF 2003-01-09 09:41 PM

該怪GF FX破壞行情嘛? :P

NT 14000的顯示卡我還可以忍痛敗下去,
NT 20000的話,
真的敗不下去。

R350如果核心如果如那個連結講的有400MHz以上,
搭配 1GHz 256 bit DDR2記憶體。

性能應該非常嚇人。

samsung 2003-01-09 09:43 PM

有256MB的記憶體,當然貴一些,而且R350不會只是R300的高頻率版本,現在連3dlabs與VIA都倘入混水與NVDA,ATI在一起競爭,真是精采,以後花個200美金應該還可以買到R350低時脈版本,嘿嘿,我看NVDA想要比前幾年賺更多錢更難上加難

痛啊 2003-01-09 09:49 PM

這種馬路消息看看就好了
一點根據都沒有,整篇文章都是「很可能」、「有希望」
R350距離上�**晹野b年
現在就談到售價未免言之過早

BorgMu 2003-01-09 09:55 PM

引用:
Originally posted by 痛啊
這種馬路消息看看就好了
一點根據都沒有,整篇文章都是「很可能」、「有希望」
R350距離上�**晹野b年
現在就談到售價未免言之過早

不過這 馬路消息 也有幾分的參考價值,不是嗎?
之前 GeForce FX 的馬路消息不都是定價大約 399美金到499美金....
看起來,售價只會比傳言的多,不太會少.......:jolin:
所以說....R350要是"傳言"要$500.........那...那.....自己想像吧.......
當然 32GB的頻寬這點.........很難相信...........

samsung 2003-01-09 10:09 PM

引用:
Originally posted by GPF
該怪GF FX破壞行情嘛? :P

NT 14000的顯示卡我還可以忍痛敗下去,
NT 20000的話,
真的敗不下去。

R350如果核心如果如那個連結講的有400MHz以上,
搭配 1GHz 256 bit DDR2記憶體。

性能應該非常嚇人。


Hynix前幾個月發表500MHz DDR-I,ATI很有機會會用這個產品:)

紐約鬼 2003-01-09 10:10 PM

我比較想知道 R350出了之後 9700 PRO 能降到多少 ?

samsung 2003-01-09 10:15 PM

引用:
Originally posted by 痛啊
這種馬路消息看看就好了
一點根據都沒有,整篇文章都是「很可能」、「有希望」
R350距離上�**晹野b年
現在就談到售價未免言之過早


哪有半年,
http://www.beyond3d.com/forum/viewt...3622&highlight=
Some of the more interesting conference call notes:

* New products (ones that started shipping in Q4) contributed to 50% of revenue...9700 the most, followed by 9000 and 9000 mobile parts. About 10% of revenues were from the integrated segment. Notebook revenues were about 1/3 of total revenues.

* Aggressive pricing on one desktop product contract (not specifically mentioned, but one big specific customer) contributed to lower than expected margins. ATI was not able to reduce costs for that part as expected. (Sounds to me like it's the 9500/9500 Pro...probably the shipping the 9700 PCB design on initial 9500 products?).

EDIT: On second thought, I don't think 9500 should have really contributed to 1Q revenues, so that's probably wrong. Perhaps the missed cost reduction is having to produce 9700 PCBs with more layers than expected? ATI hasn't publically commented on 9700 PCBs, but I think 10 layers is the rumored number, though ATI probably wanted to get it down to 8....

* One other major contributor to lower than expected margins was higher than expected cost of one new particular type of packaging for mobile chips. (Specific packaging type not mentioned, but presumably it's the packaging with integrated memory).

* "On track" to deliver "next generation" of prodcuts this spring. And then set to "break all the rules again" like they did this past summer. (Not clear if they are referring to breaking the rules with the spring line-up, or if he meant ready to break the rules again the following summer, sounded like the latter though.)

* Because the higher cost 9700 and 9500 are so popular (actually more than they expected), the unbalanced product mix contributed to lower gross margins.

* 80% of units this quarter were chips, not boards. (More migration away from board level products).

* DDRII is possible with 9700. However, it appears that from a cost / benefit point, DDR-II doesn't look viable in the near term for use with 9700. (Reiterated that the 256 bit bus allows them to use standard DDR and get required performance.)

* Range of products coming in spring (1st half '03): Integrated, mainstream, and high-end. Acknowledged that includes some on 0.13u...in which he associated "notebook" with. (I assume that to be RV-350 based). Was reluctant to match up or acknolwedge code names for chips with future products.

* Making good progress with 0.13, and don't see any impact from a margin standpoint due to migration to it.

* PDA Market: have two customers shipping today, they have several new design wins for next-gen PDA market, but won't see revenues from that until 2H 2003, when the PDA manufacturers ramp production of those products.

* Excellent relationships with both TSMC and UMC. Using both foundries is nothing new for ATI.

* Q: Will NV30 affect penetration of R-300 products? A: Well, you'll have to consider that we'll have a new spring line-up refresh against GFFX line-up

samsung 2003-01-09 10:17 PM

引用:
Originally posted by 紐約鬼
我比較想知道 R350出了之後 9700 PRO 能降到多少 ?


R9700 Pro應該會消失,剩下只由R9700,然後在OEM市場賣個200美金就是不錯的結束了

痛啊 2003-01-09 11:03 PM

引用:
Originally posted by samsung
哪有半年,


我說是「上市」時間,你列的一大串有提到這一點嗎?


所有的時間均為GMT +8。 現在的時間是05:48 PM.

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