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sony717 2005-12-17 01:43 PM

小孩玩大車...............:jolin:

那4艘紀德級我看應該不敢進入台灣海峽
不然怎麼死的都不知道.................

arizona 2005-12-17 01:50 PM

引用:
作者dighole
不過SPRUANCE裝的是VLS垂直發射系統,Kidd仍維持雙臂發射器,怪哉?

http://www.globalsecurity.org/milit...82-nich1218.jpg

恩........ :confused:
這艘 怎麼沒有看到 3D 對空搜索雷達

potai 2005-12-17 02:56 PM

有......用. 總比沒有什麼都沒有來得好....聽聽就好

marinese 2005-12-17 03:00 PM

引用:
作者dighole
現在也不流行這些大排水量的玩意了,台灣一口氣買4艘不含飛彈的Kidd,也算軍購史上的一大笑話~~~ :D

還好巴..這也是不得以的選擇 眼看對岸的現代級成軍 神盾也難買..海軍當然是沒魚有蝦
也好~

BioDynamics 2005-12-17 03:05 PM

KIDD 的防空武力及艦對艦攻擊力在當時可是巡洋艦級,獨力作戰系統也是一時之選。。


套句小弟前一篇槓話:跟老共實戰對幹看看就知道有沒有用啦!!紙上談兵連老美都自己不相信自己了,您認為呢?。。。









所以!!。。。。。FIRE IN THE PACIFIC OCEAN :cool:

gastric cancer 2005-12-17 03:30 PM

其實單個兵器在戰爭中發揮的作用極小吧

就象大陸的神盾,也只有2艘,真的兩岸開戰,臺灣的紀德艦和大陸的神盾艦的防空能力都是相當有限的

到不如兩岸各牽一條自己的防空艦,在臺灣海峽打一場看看,看防空艦海戰也是蠻有意思的~~~

其實是說說啦,願兩岸和平

m003819 2005-12-17 03:44 PM

大陸有神盾?這我倒第一次聽到.老美真的不知在想什麼?

Jochen 2005-12-17 06:50 PM

引用:
作者dighole
SM-2要另編預算買,所以目前Kidd上沒有SM-2

這也是笑話!
第一批隨艦抵台的SM-2只是減少,並不是無SM-2......不知你哪來的消息
後續當然會購入備用的,那些當然要編列新預算

Jochen 2005-12-17 06:52 PM

引用:
作者m003819
大陸有神盾?這我倒第一次聽到.老美真的不知在想什麼?

那是他們自己研發的
跟美國的不一樣.....可能有用到偷來的技術啦...........

Arucueid 2005-12-17 08:23 PM

引用:
作者dighole
不過SPRUANCE裝的是VLS垂直發射系統,Kidd仍維持雙臂發射器,怪哉?

http://www.globalsecurity.org/milit...82-nich1218.jpg


一點都不奇怪,叫你不要看圖說故事還是講不聽
轉貼之前請看清楚網頁解釋或是多多搜尋

轉自FAS: http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ship/dd-963.htm

ANTI-SURFACE
SPRUANCE is the first destroyer to be back-fitted with MK 41 Vertical Launching System (VLS) which is capable of firing the Tomahawk Cruise Missile. This system enables SPRUANCE to engage shore- based, and naval surface targets at long range. In its strike platform role, modernization of 24 ships with vertical launch systems (VLS) and the Advanced TOMAHAWK Weapons Control System (ATWCS) makes these ships formidable platforms for offensive strikes against targets of military significance deep in enemy territory. State-of-the-art computer and satellite technology allow the ships to launch up to 61 precision guided TOMAHAWK cruise missiles from its Mk 41 VLS at land targets as far away as 700 nautical miles. Ships of this class fired 112 TOMAHAWK land attack cruise missiles into Iraq during Operation Desert Storm. They have subsequently been used for preemptive strikes at the direction of National Command Authorities in both Iraq and Bosnia.

These ships have traditionally had a major role in Naval Surface Fire Support for troops ashore, employing Harpoon antiship missiles and two 5-inch guns (also used for air defense and shore bombardment). The Harpoon Missile System is proven effective in engaging shipping at intermediate ranges. Fitted with two MK 45 lightweight 5 inch/54 caliber guns guns when built, their main battery can throw a projectile over 12 miles with a firing rate of 20 rounds per minute. The five-inch/54-caliber gun represents a major step forward in medium- caliber ordnance for the U.S. Navy. The result is a weapon which allows a single man in a control center to fire a load of 20 shells without help.

ANTI-AIR
Air defense capabilities include the NATO Sea Sparrow surface to air missile system, two 20mm Close-ln-Weapons Systems, and the SLQ-32 Electronic Counter Measures system. NATO Sea Sparrow Point Defense Missile System, also know as Sea Sparrow, is a close-in air defense system employing the RIM-7M Sparrow Missile. The system is designed to counter the threat of enemy aircraft and anti-ship cruise missiles. The system is produced as a cooperative effort by the U.S. and other NATO countries - Norway, Belgium, Denmark, Italy and the Netherlands.

The DD-963 Class has a very capable self defense system, with adequate low flyer detection source Mk 23 TAS/NSSMS FCR in sector search. It provides moderate field-of-fire blockage zones for NSSMS off port/starboard bow, and may be stationed in ID zone to supplement shotgun and provide additional air defense surveillance. However, the missile range is short, and the long range air search radar is 2D. The ship must be within 1.5nm of MEU and on threat axis to provide realistic area defense.


史普倫斯級有24艘重新改裝VLS,賦予他們更強的對地攻擊力,每一艘可搭載61枚戰斧飛彈,雖然應該也可以裝配SM-2,但是沒有相應的系統,能否發揮SM-2的實力也是問題,抑或是配合神盾,當飛彈發射載台?

目前史普倫斯的防空主力還是海麻雀...而且雷達還是只有 2D,
結論就是,不要看到VLS就一定是用來發射防空飛彈,就一定比較先進,

KIDD 的SM-2 並不是沒有,只是減少而已,日後還是會依需要而購買

KIDD是配備了維吉尼亞級巡洋艦的對空系統,然後保留了史普倫斯級的反潛性能與部分對地攻擊力,但是否應因此稱為巡洋艦我是不知道,但是其火力仍然差上維級巡洋艦一大截,而且美國是將其編為驅逐艦是不可否認的事實

所以請不要再以你自己認為,然後更改武器種類了


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