EA說99.8%的人不在意DRM
http://www.custompc.co.uk/news/6050...rm-says-ea.html

If you thought that EA might have been humbled by the massive Internet backlash against its use of SecuROM in its recent games, then you’d be wrong. Speaking at the Dow Jones/Nielsen Media and Money Conference, EA’s CEO John Riccitiello claimed that the whole issue had been blown out of all proportion.
如果你認為ea已經因為網路上對於最近遊戲中使用securom
造成巨大的反對聲浪而威信掃地,那麼你就錯了。
Ea執行長John Riccitiello在
The Nielsen Company and Dow Jones, Media and Money媒體如是說,
並聲稱整個事件已被誇大不實而造成誤解。


‘We implemented a form of DRM and it's something that 99.8 per cent of users wouldn't notice,’ claimed Riccitiello, ‘but for the other 0.2 percent, it became an issue and a number of them launched a cabal online to protest against it.’ The use of SecuROM in EA’s recent PC games, including Spore, Mass Effect and Crysis Warhead, has caused a lot of controversy on the Internet, resulting in hundreds of one-star reviews on Amazon.
”我們在遊戲裡安置了DRM這東東,
而99.8%的使用者並不會注意到這玩意。”
Riccitiello說,
”但另一群0.2%的人認為那是個問題,並在網路上陰謀集結抗議。”
Securom已使用於ea最近的遊戲,包含孢子,質量效應,獵殺悍將,
並在網路上造成諸多爭議,導致在amazon很多一星的爛評價。


Originally, Spore only allowed you to activate the game three times before you had to call EA, but this was later relaxed to five activations. However, the limit on the number of installations is just a part of the controversy. The latest version of SecuROM installs a service in Windows that allows it to shutdown emulation software, preventing you from using some disc-copying software such as Alcohol 120% and Nero.
一開始,在打電話向ea討啟動次數前,
spore允許你安裝3次,之後放寬到5次。
但安裝次數限制只是爭議之一,
最新版本的securom在windows安置一個服務,
這項服務會關閉一些模擬軟體的運作,
以防止使用磁碟複製軟體如酒精與nero。


This low-level access to the operating system has led to an accusation that SecuROM has access to Ring 0, providing direct access to the kernel. EA is currently being taken to court over the use of this DRM system in Spore. However, officially SecuROM only has access to Ring 3 of Windows, which contains normal applications.
securom對作業系統ring 0層級的低階存取也被指控,
這層級已到了系統的核心部分。
(請參考http://www.extremetech.com/article2...,1156611,00.asp)

Ea目前仍因為在spore中使用drm而纏訟,
但官方表示securom只到windows的Ring 3等級,
也就是一般應用程式的層級。


Riccitiello admitted that he personally doesn’t like DRM, as it ‘interrupts the user experience.’ He also added that ‘We would like to get around that. But there is this problem called piracy out there.’
Riccitiello承認他個人不喜歡drm,因會造成使用者不愉快的經驗。
但同時也補充道,”我們很想迴避drm,但盜版問題讓我們沒有選擇。”

http://forums.electronicarts.co.uk/...ws-lawsuit.html
轉貼最下樓的說法(有關drm纏訟的事)
The main reason for this lawsuit is because the user is not prompted that third party software SecuROM (Published by Sony) will be installed. SecuROM represents that it installs itself to Ring 3 (by having a part of itself called the UA7service.exe writting to Ring 3), when in fact it installs its primarily operational code to the Kernel (aka Ring 0). Ring 3, which is the normal zone used by Software has much lower permissions.
這起訴訟最主要的原因是因為使用者
並未被告知第三方軟體securom(sony出版)將被安裝。
Securom聲稱它只被安裝到ring 3層級
(因其中一部分ua7service.exe被寫入ring 3),
但事實上它主要運作程式碼卻被安裝在核心部分(也就是ring 0),
而ring 3是一般軟體使用的區域,對系統掌握權極低。


Writing itself to the Kernel of the computer allows SecuROM to have control over all other programs and processes on the computer, including equipment that the computer users are legally permitted and entitled to possess (e.g., two cd/dvd drives on the computer.)
securom把自己寫入電腦系統核心以便控制電腦上所有其它程式與程序,
包含電腦使用者合法持有之裝備(如2台cd/dvd…)


No notification of the nature, function, and operation of the SecuROM program was provided to Spore purchasers. No notice of its secret installation was provided to persons who loaded and installed the Spore computer game. No one was told that it was a separate program installing to the Kernel of the computer and that it could not be uninstalled.
對於買spore的人來說,
securom的本質、功能、運作皆沒有任何的通知。
安裝spore的人對Securom被秘密安裝一無所知。
沒有人被告知它是一個被安裝到系統核心且獨立運作不能反安裝的程式。
(ps:最後因為心虛有放出反安裝檔,沒人提告自然就石沉大海囉)


Nowhere in any of EA's discussions, responces or explanations of its DRM did EA disclose that the Spore disk contained a separately installed, stand alone, uninstallable DRM program which would install itself to the command and control center of the computer (Kernel) and oversee function and operation on the computer, preventing certain user actions, preventing certain user programs from operating, or disrupting hardware operations. In fact, all of EA's representations about its Spore DRM talk in terms of "online authentication" - as if all DRM protection was entirely online-based and resident at EA's website, instead of being program-based at the operating system level of the user's own computer. These representations by EA are clearly significant misrepresentations of EA's DRM regime given the fact that the actual process involves a seperate DRM program permanently installed onto the hard drive of the user's compute
上面懶得再翻,看懂的自己看吧!
這裡也有securom對系統控制權的相關討論.
http://forums.2kgames.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10448
說明securom已經達到系統ring 0的層級。

總之,個人認為ea供北菜又胡亂搞,
迷惑無知民眾又把遊戲產業弄得烏煙瘴氣,
就用piracy制裁它吧!
如果等不及制裁版又很想玩,
不妨就買來玩,憋著總是不好啊~~

EA說99.8%的人不在意DRM
那spore的下載數只佔0.2%就是了-_-

昨天去台北地下街，去買xbox360版的，可是全部缺貨，後來有看到PC版，本來要買的，
可是看到背面資料，寫著可以變動五次的限制，只好再放回去，再等等xbox360...

EA把SPORE已銷售的1百萬套當整體,
AMAZON上的二、三千個反對者只佔0.2%~0.3%,
內行人一看就笑出來了,
EA執行長講的話當然只能騙騙外行人~~
盜版暫且不提,
一般玩家那知道DRM是蝦米碗糕,
就算盒子上有說明也未必會去看,
扣除能接受DRM的玩家,有意識者畢竟是少數~~

套句電影中的台詞~~
“EA每逼一步,正版玩家就得退一步,正版玩家現在已經退無可退了…”

正版玩家的權益要自己去爭取,
不能成為廠商對付盜版的犧牲品,
如果付費還得讓人糟蹋,豈不是沒尊嚴?
DRM果真能制止盜版,我絕對倡導DRM的推行,
以維持付費者享受的平衡原則,
但DRM果真有制止盜版嗎?
看看SPORE吧! 發行第一天盜版就滿天飛,
那DRM是出來搞笑的嗎?
依我看DRM只有制裁正版的作用~~

(雖說如此,個人也只是發發牢騷,畢竟在PCDVD談這些效果相當有限,
國內玩家以巴哈及遊戲基地等為大宗,但實在不想淌這渾水,
本來想架個ANTI-DRM的網站,以讓國內外玩家做不平之鳴,
但考慮可能沒心力去維護而作罷,一切交由自然法則去處理便好)

(說著說著,破解名人RAZOR1911的FAR CRY 2完全破解版已經出來了,
危機百科有他的介紹
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Razor_1911,
試問,DRM除了欺善怕惡,還能幹啥?)

大概是想逼大家轉去TV 平台吧

畢竟 TV 平台的開發簡單, 不需要出一堆 patch, 規格封閉, 利潤也高

看看pc 遊戲一套 39.99 搞不好沒人買, console 59.99~79.99 一樣一堆人買...

同樣的時間成本, 就知道廠商會瞄準哪塊了


另外 XB360/ps3 版的 DS 不是上周出了嗎?

這就是我之前認為EA的conspiracy,
被Arucueid兄說出來了~~
只是目前跡象仍無法確定,
看EA後續動作如何~~

我覺得這就是主因, 如果是我, 我當然瞄準利潤最高的那一塊

對 EA 來說,真正的大餅是在console 那. PC 市場不過是碎肉, 就是當console賺飽了再來照顧的那一塊,

從之前有人指出 PC 版的 EA sport 遊戲畫面竟然比 console 差就可以略知一二了

在說EA 對遊戲的後續照顧是出了名的爛, 當然要選 console 這種不需要售後服務的

EA在騙誰啊 :jolin:
把大家都當白癡就對了 :tu:
正版玩家已經罵到臭頭了
還說不在意
現在最可憐的變成是買正版的人了
想支持.蒐集還被這樣惡整 :stupefy:
不知道有沒有其他辦法可以牽制EA繼續使用這種低能的防盜措施