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alexchao 2011-03-16 01:37 PM

引用:
作者Rainwen
突然想到,能不能讓人民及企業選擇供電來源?
選火力的,就用火力成本計費,選核能就用核能成本計費,
如果大家都不選核能當供電來源,自然就可以廢廠停工了~ :laugh:


之前我也想過,
選火力的搬去火力電廠旁邊,付火力發電的電費
選核能的搬去核能電廠旁邊, 按核能發電計費
選風力的搬去風力電廠旁邊, 按風力發電計費
選太陽能的搬去太陽能電廠旁邊, 按太陽能發電計費

這樣就搞定了,哈哈

小建 2011-03-16 02:33 PM

Nuclear power plants shut down in Germany
 
幫大家找到可能的BBC的新聞出處:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-12745899



Germany has temporarily shut down seven of its nuclear power plants while it reconsiders its nuclear strategy.


Chancellor Angela Merkel said that all reactors operational before 1980 would be taken offline, and safety checks carried out on the remaining plants.

The move comes after concerns about radiation leaks at a Japanese plant after last Friday's earthquake.

The EU has also reached agreement on "stress tests" of all European nuclear facilities.

"We want to look at the risk and safety issues in the light of events in Japan," the European energy commissioner Guenther Oettinger said.


'Out of service'

Chancellor Merkel also pointed to the safety concerns behind the German move.

"In light of the situation, we will carry out a safety check of all nuclear plants," she said.

"Those nuclear power plants which began operation before 1980 will be provisionally shut down for the duration of the moratorium. They will be out of service.

"Safety is the priority. Those are the criteria by which we acted today."

All safety questions would be answered by 15 June, she said.

Last year, Germany decided to extend the life of its 17 nuclear power plants by 12 years, but that decision was suspended for three months on Monday.

The government had faced growing pressure for the extension to be scrapped.

More than a quarter of all German electricity comes from nuclear power.

The Swiss government has also suspended decisions on its nuclear programme.

Concerns are growing about radiation leaks at a nuclear plant in Japan that has been hit by a third explosion in four days following last week's earthquake and resulting tsunami.

The blast occurred at reactor 2 at the Fukushima Daiichi plant - 250km (155 miles) north-east of Tokyo - which engineers had been trying to stabilise after two other reactors exploded.

lompt 2011-03-16 02:53 PM

引用:
作者g875005
胡扯 德國今天停止7座核電廠運轉
而且逆轉去年的決定,所有核電廠都不再延後除役

德國人就沒經濟問題 沒CO2問題嗎?
德國幾十年沒蓋新的核電廠 現在G7工業國中
德國經濟最好 製造業最強 外銷最多


梅克爾表示:「我們將對所有核子反應爐展開安全檢查,而所有1980年底開始運轉的反應爐,將停止運作(3個月)。」


這意味著德國17座反應爐中,將有7座暫時關閉。

bxxl 2011-03-16 02:54 PM

引用:
作者marinese six
現在不就是成本?

即然是自由市場 那商人國企 選擇核電不也是自由下選擇?
又何來你指的沒有效率的發電方式 就讓他淘汰之說? :confused:


現在是電價低於發電成本吧.

您的後半段怎麼又扯到核電去了呢, 我都說我不管怎麼發電, 只要電價反應其成本就好.
而且我說的無效率使用能源方式,指的不是發電方式,
而是因為有低廉的電價導致有大量高耗電的產業,
導致人民缺乏節約用電的習慣, 諸如此類.
既然事實上能源是昂貴的,就該正確反映在電價上,
而不是用補貼吸收掉.

sutl 2011-03-16 04:10 PM

引用:
作者yaohoung2
如果是分散型發電 類似社區發電系統
好處是風險分散
不過碳排放量大家都知道的
我覺得比較適合中南部鄉間社區(偷剪電纜比較不會整個部落停電)
在人多擁擠的台北市是行不通啦

可逆電表。

以德國家用太陽能來說,當發電量遠高過使用量時,就會逆向輸回供電網。

以台灣的傳統電表來說,這時反而不會逆轉,會轉的更快,變成發電給台電,再付錢給台電的倒貼現象。

現在很多未來大型建築的設計,也開始考慮發電與農業生產的問題,所以不只是社區發電,還會有社區農業與社區水庫等等概念出現。

88space88 2011-03-16 04:52 PM

德國的煤礦是用山貓推土機在採的.. 儲量驚人.

他們要把老核電廠除役也是正常, 老電廠確實較不安全.

只有我們還在設法延長老核電壽命...

:think:

這是個大問題.

kouiou 2011-03-16 05:11 PM

引用:
作者proton63
核1核2 地震六、七級就震怒了。。。至少差 100~1000 倍,發生的機率也高出很多。


震度跟規模不一樣啦!舉例來說,這次日本碰到規模9.0的地震,但是福島的震度為6,請不要混為一談.... :unbelief:

Eric.chang 2011-03-16 05:18 PM

引用:
作者kouiou
震度跟規模不一樣啦!舉例來說,這次日本碰到規模9.0的地震,但是福島的震度為6.5,請不要混為一談.... :unbelief:


很多人對地震的規模跟震度是傻傻的分不清楚地

jcosijdfc 2011-03-16 05:23 PM

「核四」
http://www.google.com.tw/search?cli...channel=suggest

美核子反應爐 半數逾30年
http://tw.news.yahoo.com/article/ur...16/5/2o4vk.html

別國在注意舊電廠安不安全
台灣這在吵還沒弄好的新電廠
舊電廠沒半點人氣

Crazynut 2011-03-16 06:18 PM

引用:
作者alexchao
之前我也想過,
選火力的搬去火力電廠旁邊,付火力發電的電費
選核能的搬去核能電廠旁邊, 按核能發電計費
選風力的搬去風力電廠旁邊, 按風力發電計費
選太陽能的搬去太陽能電廠旁邊, 按太陽能發電計費

這樣就搞定了,哈哈


你的建議非常讚,如果有人道和平獎項的話,我真想給您提名。


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