貼一個新消息。也為未來的市場趨勢下註腳。轉移一下氣氛。NV也是台灣出去的人開的公司。A＋N＋A都好。啊-嗯-啊都好。呵呵。不要 I 哎就好。I 賺我們很多了。以前一個月賺的只能買僅僅一顆處理器。下面此小小新聞意味未來這一年很可能會有晶片降價會發生。尤其換機潮可能會發生。大量P３會退役。包含我這台。

　　這不是翻譯。是旁白。下面的文章好像不是華爾街的股�**薇央C有相當真實性。但仍有爭議。

　　５月４日消息。兩個極為不同的消息。

http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=15690

　　FIGURES FROM market research companies agree that AMD has started to bite into Intel's desktop market share, but to what extent depends on which set of analysts you choose to believe.

　　According to Mercury Research, AMD made a tiny gain on Intel's market share over the last six months, but the chip giant is still by far the biggest player in the x86 market. But another research company, Current Analysis, has a sharply different view of desktop processor market. The IDG News Service reported that desktop PCs with AMD chips outsold processors from Intel in one week during April.

　　根據 Mercury研究,過去６個月以來超微僅自英特爾手上取得極微小的市場占率擴張,但是IDG新聞報報導,裝著超微處理器的桌上型電腦在４月的一周中已經超過英特爾。

　　Mercury Research said Intel has 83.6 per cent of the market, while AMD has a 14.9 per cent share, up slightly on the same time last year. What is left of the market is carved up between Via Technologies and Transmeta.

　　Mercury 研究,說英特爾市占率有８３.６%。超微是１４.９%。剩下是威盛和全美達的市占率。(包含全美達,這數字意味筆電是包含在內的)。筆電市場英特爾是橫掃的。約占一半。換言之在桌上電腦超微有３成左右。而筆電處理器是除了伺服處理器之外利潤最大的處理器產品。

　　Both AMD and Intel recently reported good sales figures.

　　A Mercury spokesman said that there was a small increase in market share for AMD - that was because of a slight upward trend in white-box PCs, desktops, servers and laptops from system integrators.

　　AMD did better in the server market, but Intel continues to dominate in this area with most of the world's servers running on its chips. µ

　　超微在伺服器市場上幹得好。但英特爾仍掌控一切。

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"What 52% Really Is" 到底５２%是啥

http://www.overclockers.com/tips00576/

Ed Stroligo - 5/4/04

　　Some people have written me mentioning a report saying that AMD outsold Intel for a week.

　　有人寫信給我說是一個報告指出超微已經在銷售上超過英特爾達一周。

　　Here's the actual article with all the details, BTW.

　　What it actually says is that AMD desktop computers outsold Intel desktop computers in the U.S. retail market for a week.

　　他實際是說超微桌上型電腦處理器銷售在美國零售市場超過英特爾整整一周。此文的retail market應該不是指組裝市場。因為股市的用語中,零售指的是指終端銷售。

　　That means sales in computer stores and places like Best Buy. It doesn't include mail-order or online sales or corporate purchases, and obviously doesn't include the rest of the world.

　　這意味電腦是銷售在佳購這類電腦電和實體賣場。不包含郵購市場和線上網路銷售。(註:所以這可能不包含戴爾的銷售數量)

　　What the report doesn't say is that U.S. retail sales has always been a strong point for AMD. Having a marketshare of 40-ish% in this particular market is pretty normal for them, so 52%, while good, is hardly earth-shattering news.

　　此報導不是說在美國零售市場中,超微總是如此強勁。有個４成多在此特定市場對他們而言是不錯,所以５２%也是好到可以在滿地球上可以拼命大喊的新聞了。

　　The article linked above goes on to point out that the overall worldwide marketshare (that means everything) of AMD vs. Intel for the first quarter: 第一季全球銷售量含筆電與郵購線上銷售等所有銷售。

　　AMD: 14.9%
　　Intel: 83.6%

　　14.9% is historically on the low side for AMD under normal circumstances. They did worse when they had to curtail production a while back due to excessive inventory, but during the TBird era, marketshare was up around 22-23%.

　　在雷鳥時代曾到達２２－２３%。(註那時候英特爾處於0.18製程缺貨時期與全球千禧換機潮之中,而且當時筆電占有率不算高。)

　　Then again, folks like Hector Ruiz have been saying that getting a decent price now takes priority over sheer marketshare at AMD, so one would expect a somewhat lower marketshare figure than during the Jerry Sanders era.

　　Sorry if I burst any of your bubbles, folks, but that's all it is, a bubble.

Ed

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５月３日消息

http://www.infoworld.com/article/04...amdintel_1.html

　　Desktop PCs with processors from Advanced Micro Devices Inc. (AMD) outsold desktops based on processors from Intel Corp. for the week ending April 24 in U.S. retail channels, according to research released late last week from Current Analysis Inc.

　　Current Analysis has been tracking this market for only a few quarters, but the most recent results were a high-water mark for AMD, said Toni Duboise, an analyst with the La Jolla, California-based company.

　　This is the first time AMD-based desktops have surpassed Intel desktops since last November when the company began tracking the data, Duboise said.

　　這是自去年１１月以來第一次超微處理器桌上電腦超過英特爾。

　　"It represents how AMD is gaining strength and momentum within the consumer market," Duboise said. Sales of PCs with both the Athlon XP and the newer Athlon 64 improved not only in the low-end of the market where AMD has already enjoyed some success, but in higher-priced desktops, she said.

　　速龍XP與速龍６４不只在入門市場,在高價桌上電腦市場也享受了成功。

　　Intel still controls the overall market, especially among notebooks, the fastest growing segment of the PC market. Sixty-one percent of all PCs sold during the week ending April 24 came with Intel processors, and 81 percent of notebooks sold that week were powered by Intel processors, Duboise said.

　　筆電市場才是成長最快的。仍在英特爾掌控下。在過去的４月２４日這最後一周,所有電腦中處理器的６１%是英特爾的。８１%的筆電是英特爾版的。

　　註:依據下面的筆電市場比例估計,筆電占全球電腦銷售４成,這意味１０台電腦中有４台是筆電。其中８成就是３.２台,是英特爾的筆電。但再加上近３台桌上電腦就是英特爾的所有總份的６１%。那意味另外桌上電腦有近３台是超微的。近１台筆電是超微與全美達＋威盛的。這３成左右可是很大的超級比例。這意味在組裝市場超微已經是超級霸主。只是組裝市場沒有像筆電那樣的利潤。

　　Desktop sales still account for 60 percent of the overall PC market, and AMD has made its greatest strides against Intel in that category. PC companies such as Hewlett-Packard Co. have started to sell more and more AMD PCs at retail, including three new Pavilion models that helped AMD beat Intel for the week, Duboise said.

　　桌上電腦銷售佔有全球電腦６成。超微成長強勁云云。

　　But desktop PCs based on Intel technology are about to get a boost with the introduction of the Grantsdale chipset expected this quarter. Grantsdale will improve overall system performance with support for the PCI Express interconnect technology, faster DDR2 (double data rate 2) memory, and an integrated wireless access point. Intel's desktop partners are expected to introduce new systems once Grantsdale is formally introduced.

　　Those new PCs will likely put Intel back on top of the retail desktop market later this year, Duboise said.

　　When it comes to general x86 processors shipped into the market, Intel still holds a clear lead over AMD, said Dean McCarron, principal analyst with Mercury Research Inc. in Cave Creek, Arizona.

　　Intel shipped 83.6 percent of the desktop, notebook and server processors shipped to system builders and distributors in the first quarter, McCarron said. AMD shipped 14.9 percent of the processors in that category.

　　整年去算英特爾仍是霸主。英特爾第一季控制８３.６%的桌電＋筆電＋伺服。超微市占率是１４.９%。(註:換言之在４月最後一周超微整整擴張了一倍超過的市占率。)

　　Despite the interest in AMD's Opteron processor, Intel still controls the market for servers based on the x86 instruction set with over 90 percent market share in that category. This helps explain why Intel's overall numbers are far better than AMD's despite the latter company's success at retail this quarter.

　　英特爾控制了超過９成的伺服器市場。

　　Overall, the processor market was down a little more in the first quarter than seasonal patterns usually reflect, McCarron said. The first half of the year is generally slower than the second half, when the PC market accelerates due to back-to-school and holiday shopping patterns.

　　暑假返校的裝機潮是決戰點。
　　註:K８-６４FX和K８-３２XP(整合記憶體控制單元的可怖K７)將會傾巢而出。那會是真正的决戰。那時候１＋１就不只能等於２了。

雖然這個title是您開的，不過還請不要離題得理所當然。:jolin:


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well，我是不太注意optimization啦。
讓合作廠商的硬體產品跑起來比較快當然是好事，不過也不能掉quality....
而且重點還不是這裡，你也不能讓其他競爭廠商的卡不正常地變慢。

好在經過DX9初期的混亂場面之後，沒讓狀況惡化到上面的狀況出現。
NV40和R420這些後DX9產品，原則上都符合我的期望了。

這裡不是顯示卡討論區嗎? 害我以為走錯地方了....

我記得沒有錯的話
你應該是在巴哈討論版上面看到
那PO的那個文章作者並沒有明指

他說明的是
DELAY就是程序上做個延遲的動作
並沒有說明到硬體上的緩慢導致延遲

作者 eola (疾風蟑螂) 看板 Hardware
標題 Re: 到底天堂2會LAG的原因是啥?
時間 Tue Feb 3 23:46:17 2004
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※ 引述《Mains (Mains)》之銘言：
> conan大大.......
> 那叫delay不叫lag..........

應該是沒有符合預期即時出現的結果都可以稱為lag...

不知道你們delay/lag的分別是從哪裡找來的資料.

但是就我印象中在programming相關方面,delay
比較偏向是主動製造的等待狀態,lag是因為外在因素造成的

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Q:How can I insert the coin to play an arcade emulator?

A:Try the Floppy Disc Drive.
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※ Origin: 巴哈姆特<bbs.gamer.com.tw> ◆ From: cissol7.cis.nctu.edu.tw

閱讀精華 (=\[]<>-+)相關主題 (/?aA)搜尋標題作者 (↑↓)上下 (←)離開

因為之前eola大大po的不詳細
導致一些人認知上問題的不完確...

另外我是不知道IO上設計如何
不過我知道
最佳化是在於LOOP的CODE上能夠以最少的CYCLE達到最佳化
D3DX應該知道吧
D3DX雖然都內建好很多函式庫(凡是D3DX___????都是)
但是對於想最佳化程式設計師並不能有效控制

樓主自己離題啊! :jolin:

拉回主題好嗎!!! :p

其實也不用拉回主題了
這個主題就讓它淹沒吧

面積
R420/R423 略大於 R350/R360
畢竟 pin count 還是差了228

....................

算了
這是專有名詞了
只是網路遊戲興起後 才有Lag這名詞
為的就是區分是網路的問題或本身的問題
不要參在一起
我本身就是軟體工程師 我並不了解也沒看過巴哈的文章
我只是不喜歡有人誤導別人罷了