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- - 18年前的獵殺紅色十月
(https://www.pcdvd.com.tw/showthread.php?t=757511)
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個人看法,獵殺U571是最下位的電影�***子裡可批評的點很多, 赤色風暴比U片好,不過裡面的艦長還是抱著冷戰思維 獵殺紅色十月又比赤片好,情節緊湊 最好的潛艦電影就是『從海底出擊』。經典! 另外一提,湯姆克蘭西對哈里遜福特詮釋的傑克雷恩很不滿,還公開批評過,所以雷恩系列 第四集才換班·艾佛列克來演,其實個人認為亞歷包德溫詮釋的比較像,老哈是有點過火了,不過不演中情局的新進分析師,老哈升級成美國總統大戰劫機客,這算是升官麼 |
我不太認同這說法,那時Nicolas Cage一直都不算紅直到靠Leaving Las Vegas拿到奧斯卡,之後The Rock大紅,開始轉型拍動作片.....所以成名作是Leaving Las Vegas,而動作片的成名作是The Rock
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+1 Das Boot看到結局真的是一整個心酸... (***有雷***) 歷經大小戰役被打得跟豬頭一樣都沒被打沉.拖著疲憊的身子回到母國準備被當英雄式的歡迎後維修重整再出發 結果回家才在震驚這場戰爭祖國已經被快被打敗了. 傷痕累累卻始終能浮出海平面的潛艦及船員最後卻是在靠港時被飛機炸彈擊沉... 戰爭片我還沒看過比這個更悲的.... |
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哈里遜福特所詮釋的傑克雷恩,動作場面較多,比較不像分析師; 而亞歷包德溫與班艾佛列克所飾演的傑克雷恩,在劇情中都是藉由 對研究對象的透徹分析,進而幫助國家取得軍事優勢或解決危機。 在湯姆克蘭西一系列的小說中,傑克雷恩最後變成總統; 老哈雖然沒有繼續當傑克雷恩,但還是當到了總統 :laugh: |
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獵殺紅色十月 先看影片再看小說會比較容易釋懷,不然先看小說再看電影會發現怎麼跟原著差這麼多,不管如何小說.電影都好看,海戰迷一定都要瞧瞧 :p |
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他果然還是有總統命! |
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沒錯,潛艦片的經點是從海底出擊,裡面的布景是以1:1比例去打造的 不管是場景.演技.真實度都勝過後來的幾部,後面的大概都只能歸類為精彩的動作片 要看經典還是要看Das Boot,不過想看完要先有腰廢掉的打算(將近五個鐘頭) :D :D |
赤色風暴給我的印象的確是滿深刻的。
小說的緊湊感稍比電影欠缺些,應該是電影濃縮而導致。 不過,倒是增加電影的可看度。 :) |
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+N DAS BOOT才是潛艦片的代名詞 尤其是有在玩SH2和3的 可說是必看 :yeah: U571!? 看完差點沒腦溢血 看完DAS BOOT 馬上開XXI去報仇 :laugh: |
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+n^n Das Boot則是潛艇電影的典範,尤其5小時的Mini series版,認真看得話,最後心真的蠻痛的...:cry: U571除了音效還不錯以外,其他都很點點點。 加上導演Jonathan Mostow的一段訪談顯示他歷史知識的匱乏: MW(訪問者): How did you think about showing the German perspective? I'm thinking of the first few moments, where you're focused in on the German crew as they torpedo a merchant ship and the captain says, "We've broken their backs." JM(導演): That was the way they talked. But these aren't cliche Nazi villains. These are submariners who are fighting for the other side. You know, Das Boot, in terms of the technical authenticity of the submarining, it's a very accurate movie. But there's one huge falsehood in that movie, and it's the depiction of these submariners as being sort of apologists for fighting for Hitler. It represents the guys [as if] they were jolly good sailors minding their own business, and all the sudden, Hitler comes to power and they're stuck fighting under the Nazi flag. Well, it's completely untrue: the submariners were the most gung-ho Nazis of all. They were all volunteers, they were quite young. There was a huge propaganda effort inside of Germany to get people to volunteer for submarines and the pay was doubled, there was great prestige with it. And what they weren't telling... was that if you went submarining, chances are three out of four that you never came back alive. I'd spoken to Allied officers who captured some of the guys at sea, and asked, how are they? I always got the same answer: they were real Nazis. They were right out of the movies. Blue-eyed, blond hair, completely arrogant.... If anything, my movie is too easy on them. I didn't want to get into a whole Nazi-as-bad-guy thing necessarily: I wanted to focus on the submarining. Like for instance, when they machine-gun a boatload of British survivors from a merchant ship, it's not necessarily just out of cruelness, it's out of necessity. They let those guys live, then the chances are raised that their location will be revealed if those survivors are picked up. And what that really does from a historical point of view, is it raises the stakes. It just lets everybody understand how important it is that their security is protected and to what extent they'll go to protect that. |
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