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- - 台積電:40nm良品率AMD可達80% Fermi僅僅20%
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對啊~5770的CP值不高 不過拼效能還有強過GTX260的HD4890能選 起碼ATI的產品可以讓你選效能強一些,不過比較耗電的產品 或者可以選效能比較差一些,但是很省電的產品 相較於NV要效能拼不贏,要省電也沒有,現階段3D效能導向仍舊是一面倒 等到月底或許連NV免強可入手的260 275也沒得比了 屆時對手將是5830/1G |
依2篇對起來,
我倒是覺得那數字還可接受,(和出貨量來做對比) 另外,之前有人也曾提到, 因Fermi切割比較大, 所以相對於ATI-AMD的顯卡切割比較小的優點, 所以Fermi 40nm良率會更差其實是還蠻合理的^^ |
對岸大多是翻譯版啦
應該是原始文章 http://www.fudzilla.com/content/view/17205/1/ Claims that the current TSMC 40nm process that is being used for the AMD/ATI Cypress family is achieving yields of in the neighborhood of 40% don’t seem to have a shred of truth. Our sources close to TSMC claim that actually the 40nm process that is being used for the Cypress family is routinely achieving yields in the 60% to 80% range, which is actually confirmed by the fact that ATI is keeping product in the pipeline and you can actually buy boards at retail. Chip yields seem to be the topic of discussion lately as the much larger Nvidia Fermi chip is struggling with yield issues as our sources suggest that the actual yields are as low as 20% and are not improving quickly according to sources close to the fabs. With wafer starts costing about $5K the numbers suggest that each chip would cost an astounding estimated $200 per chip which pegs the card with a sticker price of about $600. Those in the know are claiming that Fermi despite the yield and thermal issues is only about 20% faster than Cypress, while Hemlock smokes it. The combination of low yields, high thermals, and marginally better performance than Cypress could be conspiring to place Nvida in the position of having to release the card, but have to sell it at a loss till they are able to address the issues in the next spin according to sources. Because of the situation a mole we know is suggesting that Nvidia may limit the sales of Fermi to consumers and instead use the chips for the Tesla and Quadro products where prices and margins are much better. All of the talk of yields seems to be in some ways nothing more than a smoke screen to shine the light off of the current situation to stall sales by promising something that most consumers are likely going to be unable to buy. The moles claim you will not need a pair of 3D glasses to watch this shake out in the next few weeks. |
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你的可性度0.1% ~off :D |
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:shy: :shy: :shy: |
先補血 不然等一下被噓爆
話說回來,NV再不加油或者真的放棄PC遊戲市場讓AMD獨大,那不是件好事 |
撇開良率不提
nVIDIA假如還想用大核心策略去硬拼ATi 那結果已經可想而知,連效能都不必看了 :stupefy: |
黃sir:有沒有聽過OverDriver?
其實我的Fermi內件X86 |
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:eek: :eek: :eek: 挖勒... 天頂星人還是火星人加持不成? 老黃啊,火星科技就讓它沉入黑歷史裡吧~ :stupefy: |
20%...80%..差四倍
假如再加上Die Size可能也差了40%... 兩個GPU成本豈不是差了快六倍 |
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