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cmwang 2007-08-08 08:43 PM

補充一下,樓主既然會用HDtune,除了Benchmark/Error scan之外不妨順便看一下Health,應該多少可以看出些東東才對:p:p....

slot387 2007-08-08 09:01 PM

我也是建議樓主直接退還給賣主,

畢竟硬碟外觀有問題,這個如果RMA回原廠被原廠發現到,應該是不予以保固了,

至於運費的話,能要就要,不能要就算了,

因為如果能拿回買硬碟+單趟運費的錢就不錯,

雖然是不要姑息養奸,但還是以先拿的回錢再說...

畢竟除非有物證可以證明你們有交易,不然應該拿那位賣家沒有辦法...

phon 2007-08-08 10:29 PM

引用:
作者cmwang
補充一下,樓主既然會用HDtune,除了Benchmark/Error scan之外不妨順便看一下Health,應該多少可以看出些東東才對:p:p....


那我補充一下Health圖好了 不過那些項目實在不懂他的涵義 ^^" 只看的懂"良好"



因為我之前寄給賣家的信他還沒回信
所以剛剛就直接打電話給賣家
跟他說明 讓他了解一下
賣家是請我先寄個圖給他看一下
他明天才能上網看
感覺還蠻和善的啦

說個題外話 我沒想到會有這麼多人回應我耶
PCDVD真是個有人情味的地方~!

wwsean 2007-08-08 11:07 PM

建議不要用快速掃描
那多半掃不出壞點
好好用標準的掃一下
應該會有真相出來

hjfrank 2007-08-08 11:40 PM

引用:
作者michael2000
既然讀取不順,應該已經受傷了,壞軌只是遲早的問題。 我懷疑賣家是故意的,若他不好好處理,就公布帳號讓大家一起抵制吧。


大概是知情不報吧,
賣東西不老實,
被買家抓到還一問三不知。

強烈建議不要在網路買二手的硬碟,
因為問題真的很多,
硬碟 user 的使用習慣也不同,
最夭壽的是會碰到一些偽善的賣家,
買家常常成為冤大頭幫別人吸收不良品。


(我自身的慘痛經驗)

cmwang 2007-08-10 07:27 AM

引用:
作者phon
那我補充一下Health圖好了 不過那些項目實在不懂他的涵義 ^^" 只看的懂"良好"

snipped....


這應該是HDtune還沒支援那棵HD(也就是HDtune無法正確解釋那棵HD透過SMART所傳回的東東),鵝平常是在*nix下用smartmontools去看比較不會有這類狀況(現在也有Win32版,不過不是普通的user friendly就是了:ase),不然就只好用開機片跑原廠的tool(i.e. seatools)測最保險了:ase....

PS:以下附上smartmontools的輸出,大家參考參考吧:p:p....

引用:
smartctl version 5.36 [i486-slackware-linux-gnu] Copyright (C) 2002-6 Bruce Allen
Home page is http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net/

=== START OF INFORMATION SECTION ===
Device Model: HDT722525DLA380
Serial Number: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Firmware Version: V44OA9BA
User Capacity: 250,058,268,160 bytes
Device is: Not in smartctl database [for details use: -P showall]
ATA Version is: 7
ATA Standard is: ATA/ATAPI-7 T13 1532D revision 1
Local Time is: Thu Aug 9 07:01:08 2007 CST
SMART support is: Available - device has SMART capability.
SMART support is: Enabled

=== START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION ===
SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED

General SMART Values:
Offline data collection status: (0x00) Offline data collection activity
was never started.
Auto Offline Data Collection: Disabled.
Self-test execution status: ( 0) The previous self-test routine completed
without error or no self-test has ever
been run.
Total time to complete Offline
data collection: (4797) seconds.
Offline data collection
capabilities: (0x5b) SMART execute Offline immediate.
Auto Offline data collection on/off support.
Suspend Offline collection upon new
command.
Offline surface scan supported.
Self-test supported.
No Conveyance Self-test supported.
Selective Self-test supported.
SMART capabilities: (0x0003) Saves SMART data before entering
power-saving mode.
Supports SMART auto save timer.
Error logging capability: (0x01) Error logging supported.
General Purpose Logging supported.
Short self-test routine
recommended polling time: ( 1) minutes.
Extended self-test routine
recommended polling time: ( 80) minutes.

SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 16
Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds:
ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME FLAG VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE UPDATED WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE
1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate 0x000b 100 100 016 Pre-fail Always - 0
2 Throughput_Performance 0x0005 100 100 050 Pre-fail Offline - 0
3 Spin_Up_Time 0x0007 121 121 024 Pre-fail Always - 287 (Average 289)
4 Start_Stop_Count 0x0012 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 73
5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct 0x0033 100 100 005 Pre-fail Always - 0
7 Seek_Error_Rate 0x000b 100 100 067 Pre-fail Always - 0
8 Seek_Time_Performance 0x0005 100 100 020 Pre-fail Offline - 0
9 Power_On_Hours 0x0012 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 51
10 Spin_Retry_Count 0x0013 100 100 060 Pre-fail Always - 0
12 Power_Cycle_Count 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 71
192 Power-Off_Retract_Count 0x0032 100 100 050 Old_age Always - 73
193 Load_Cycle_Count 0x0012 100 100 050 Old_age Always - 73
194 Temperature_Celsius 0x0002 125 125 000 Old_age Always - 44 (Lifetime Min/Max 25/56)
196 Reallocated_Event_Count 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0
197 Current_Pending_Sector 0x0022 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0
198 Offline_Uncorrectable 0x0008 100 100 000 Old_age Offline - 0
199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count 0x000a 200 253 000 Old_age Always - 0

SMART Error Log Version: 1
No Errors Logged

SMART Self-test log structure revision number 1
Num Test_Description Status Remaining LifeTime(hours) LBA_of_first_error
# 1 Short offline Completed without error 00% 51 -

Lighten 2007-08-10 08:18 AM

嚇到!存取時間71.1ms...
看來非比尋常,或許再找其它軟體試試
全新的就有機會碰到問題,二手的風險可想而知


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