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healthfirst 2016-04-18 09:42 PM

如果買回來不拆
只變更設計繼續蓋完
就表示根本沒必要買回
只要跟遠雄協商變更設計就好
根本沒必要花大錢解約買回
不拆的話
未來又落人話柄

引用:
作者hsinyic2
真糟糕,連網路都不會查,難怪會被告到脫褲子。

怎麼知道他連網路都不會查
說不定是刻意導向......

JWPW 2016-04-18 09:47 PM

引用:
作者hsinyic2
[轉貼]
林洲民說,遠雄大巨蛋面積10公頃,新加坡巨蛋則是35公頃,面積是大巨蛋的3倍半,網路公告造價是新台幣319億。林洲民報告僅說到這裡就結束,但言下之意,指遠雄開價太高。

真糟糕,連網路都不會查,難怪會被告到脫褲子。

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Singapore_Sports_Hub

這個只會比園區面積的局長,建設費用應該是查 Wiki 的。但條目上寫的是體育園區的預估建設費用,13 億新幣,換算成台幣約 312 億台幣

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natio...dium,_Singapore

但實際上,光巨蛋本體的建設費用就花了 18.7 億新幣,換算台幣是近 450 億。


你查太詳細了

鐵粉都定調說法了
這樣很難追上的

我要回來 2016-04-18 10:00 PM

洋基新球場甚麼時候變成蛋了???

salfonxman 2016-04-18 10:27 PM

引用:
作者hsinyic2
[轉貼]
林洲民說,遠雄大巨蛋面積10公頃,新加坡巨蛋則是35公頃,面積是大巨蛋的3倍半,網路公告造價是新台幣319億。林洲民報告僅說到這裡就結束,但言下之意,指遠雄開價太高。

真糟糕,連網路都不會查,難怪會被告到脫褲子。

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Singapore_Sports_Hub

這個只會比園區面積的局長,建設費用應該是查 Wiki 的。但條目上寫的是體育園區的預估建設費用,13 億新幣,換算成台幣約 312 億台幣

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natio...dium,_Singapore

但實際上,光巨蛋本體的建設費用就花了 18.7 億新幣,換算台幣是近 450 億。

根據新加坡政府機構的資料

http://eresources.nlb.gov.sg/infope...-26_160204.html

The construction and management of the sports hub was placed under a private-public partnership (PPP) scheme for a 25-year lease period.11 This meant that the selected developer was required to design, build, finance and operate the Sports Hub during the lease period. The government, through the Singapore Sports Council (now Sport Singapore), would then reimburse the company with an annual sum until the end of the lease.12 In December 2005, at the preliminary stage of the tender process, the project was estimated to cost between S$650 million and S$800 million, making the sports hub the biggest PPP project in Singapore.13 However, the budget increased to S$1.87 billion when the tender was awarded on 19 January 2008. One of the reasons cited for the larger cost was the addition of a water sports centre. The Sports Hub is the biggest PPP sports facility project in the world.

原始計畫是6000~8000萬新幣,後來一路調高(1.3億是過程中的一個數字),最後因為加上water sports centre,所以才漲為1.87億新幣

整個Singapore Sports Hub,包含以下

National Stadium
The centrepiece of the Sports Hub is the 55,000-capacity National Stadium with a dome-shaped retractable roof. The stadium stands at 82.5 m when the 310-metre-wide dome is fully closed.42 The bowl-shaped stadium is fitted with a cooling system that pumps out cool air from beneath the seats. In addition, its seating can be configured to suit a variety of events from sports such as rugby, cricket, football and athletics, to concerts, family entertainment shows, as well as national and community events. It is the only stadium in the world capable of hosting such a wide range of events.43

OCBC Aquatic Centre
The 6,000-seat OCBC Aquatic Centre has a 50-metre competition pool with 10 lanes, a 50-metre training pool with eight lanes, and a 25-metre-wide diving or multipurpose pool. These facilities are open to the public by paid admission when there is no event ongoing.44

OCBC Arena
The 3,000-seat OCBC Arena is made up of two modular facilities containing six multipurpose halls that can be configured to hold various sporting events such as badminton, basketball, netball, volleyball, martial arts and fencing.45 The facilities, like the aquatic centre, are open to the public for a fee. It is also home to the following six national sports associations: Singapore Badminton Association, Basketball Association of Singapore, Fencing Singapore, Netball Singapore, Singapore Taekwondo Federation and Volleyball Association of Singapore.46

Water Sports Centre
The Water Sports Centre is designed to hold kayaking, rowing, and dragon boat racing events in the Kallang Basin on either a 500-metre or one-kilometre course. The public can also rent a kayak or canoe at the centre for recreational use in the Kallang Basin. There is also a viewing deck overlooking the basin, which can accommodate up to 80 people.47

Kallang Wave Mall
The Kallang Wave Mall is a 41,000-square-metre retail space that has an indoor rock-climbing wall as well as a water park on its rooftop.48

Other facilities
In addition to sport and lifestyle facilities, community spaces can also be found within the Sports Hub. These include a beach volleyball court, skate park, lawn bowling turf, playground for toddlers, basketball courts and a 900-metre running track known as the 100PLUS Promenade. There are also educational and learning spaces such as the Singapore Sports Museum and the Sports Hub Library.49 Existing facilities such as the Singapore Indoor Stadium are also located within the Sports Hub

隨風浮雲 2016-04-18 11:12 PM

引用:
作者salfonxman
the budget increased to S$1.87 billion when the tender was awarded on 19 January 2008. One of the reasons cited for the larger cost was the addition of a water sports centre. The Sports Hub is the biggest PPP sports facility project in the world.

原始計畫是6000~8000萬新幣,後來一路調高(1.3億是過程中的一個數字),最後因為加上water sports centre,所以才漲為1.87億新幣...

是18.7 億新幣,少一個零差很多。

salfonxman 2016-04-18 11:17 PM

引用:
作者隨風浮雲
是18.7 億新幣,少一個零差很多。



你說的對

我換算的時候全部少了一位數 :laugh:

應該是原始計畫是6~8億新幣,後來一路調高(13.3億是過程中的一個數字),最後因為加上water sports centre,所以才漲為18.7億新幣

機油大盤商9 2016-04-18 11:24 PM

新加坡的巨蛋用途是足球場???

我一直覺得新加坡的職業足球聯盟好屌 還開放日本 大陸跟韓國球隊打聯賽 印象中好像還有非洲還是沙國的球隊也有打他們的聯賽???

netblue 2016-04-18 11:29 PM

拿臺灣的跟新加坡比?

本來就不能相提並論。
只能說各說各話,最後就各憑本事。

反正倒楣、被敲的是老百姓的錢。

healthfirst 2016-04-18 11:34 PM

我搞不懂為什麼要解約買回
世大運主場館已經改為台北田徑場
北市府有的是時間跟遠雄玩
遠雄好幾百億錢卡在裡頭
北市府不出一毛錢就能讓它停工
照理說是遠雄比北市府急才對
這盤棋到底為什麼下成這樣?

shival 2016-04-18 11:44 PM

引用:
作者healthfirst
我搞不懂為什麼要解約買回
世大運主場館已經改為台北田徑場
北市府有的是時間跟遠雄玩
遠雄好幾百億錢卡在裡頭
北市府不出一毛錢就能讓它停工
照理說是遠雄比北市府急才對
這盤棋到底為什麼下成這樣?

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